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Now Russia warns Turkey to stay OUT of Syria and let Assad take back areas vacated by [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | December 27, 2018 | Julian Robinson

Posted on 12/27/2018 6:50:10 AM PST by C19fan

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To: Alberta's Child

“The Kurds are an ethnic group spread across multiple sovereign countries. They have no legitimate government that is recognized by anyone. Calling them “allies” of the U.S. is preposterous.

Sir, you are getting bogged down in semantics. The realpolitick fact of the matter is that they have been fighting alongside the US in that region for a few decades and they most certainly as a cohesive ethnic force with the most effective fighting force in that region that spans borders are our allies.Sorry that they don’t meet your textbook definition of a country but not recognizing them as an allied fighting force of the US is beyond preposterous.


41 posted on 12/28/2018 9:19:49 AM PST by chuckee (extended beyond the timens e)
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Sir, you are getting bogged down in semantics. The realpolitick fact of the matter is that they have been fighting alongside the US in that region for a few decades ...

Fighting stupid wars that this country had no business ever fighting in the first place. Can you explain the national interest we have in taking sides in civil wars halfway around the world?

Sorry that they don’t meet your textbook definition of a country but not recognizing them as an allied fighting force of the US is beyond preposterous.

The Kurds have been engaged in a decades-long insurgency in Turkey. In fact, the Kurdish political party in Turkey (the PKK) is considered a terrorist organization by the Turkish government.

It is preposterous on its face to have the U.S. maintaining an "alliance" with an ethic group inside the borders of a country that has a mutual defense treaty with the U.S.

Do you think it's a coincidence that these military campaigns have been foisted on the American public by the same globalist @ssholes who are hell-bent on eliminating our own borders here in the U.S.?

42 posted on 12/28/2018 9:49:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I'm a cool dude in a loose mood! Hey -- two ginger ales for my girls!")
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We are talking about the middle east here not Europe and as such tribalism that spans borders is always at play.If your
argument is that Syria has a cohesive governing entity, you might want to run that by the alawites, kurds, yakuzi,
arabs,Iranians, Russians,Turks, al qaeda all of whom have decided it is not.Sorry but when it comes to Syria as
currently constituted, you don’t pick a government, you pick a tribe as your allied fighting force in advancing your
interests. We started out by aligning ourselves with the wrong one, the “rebels” better known as al Qaeda vs the
“legitimate” government but fortunately wound up with the right one, the Kurds who were instrumental alongside the US
in clearing out ISIS. Same goes for the Iraqi Kurds whom we protected even though they did not meet the neat textbook
definition of a nation and who were instrumental in both Iraq wars in fighting the “legitimate” government of Saddam
alongside the US and then stopping the initial spread of ISIS there when the “legitimate”Iraqi government forces ran
away and ceded the territory to ISIS.Absolutely the Kurds are advancing their own interests in forging a nation for themselves in that region and accordingly they are a thorn in the sides of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey. not exactly friends in my book. I agree with you we had no business in Syria in the first place and absolutely no business in Libya.The jury is still out on Iraq. But when we committed ourselves there it was always against the existing government so necessarily we needed a tribal ally. The Kurds consistently were that ally.Whether we should have been there or not is another question. I fully agree with you and Trump that we need to stay out of the middle east but should terrorism from there raise its ugly head here again the Kurds are a valuable fighting force for us.


43 posted on 12/28/2018 10:40:09 AM PST by chuckee (extended beyond the timens e)
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From what I can tell...the Tiger Forces and a lot of the fighting army have moved to the Manbij Countryside. That is on the border of Turkey.

...5h....

...8h....International Coalition helicopters flying over the skies of Manbij

...8h....Pro #FSA activist "Heavy American helicopter aerial presence in Manbij's skies as the PYD gang announces its handover of the city to Syrian Government Forces."

This above was posted by Ivan in the Tiger Forces...Syria. ...7h...Pro #FSA activist "Heavy American helicopter aerial presence in Manbij's skies as the PYD gang announces its handover of the city to Syrian Government Forces."............Manbij Civilian 25 & 15 minutes ago : - I'm now within Manbij and there is no presence of the Syrian Arab Army in Manbij. Only presence is on the borders. - The Kurds are arresting anyone who goes out and rallies.

IvanSidorenko1.....No Syrian Armed Forces have Entered Manbij Yet. Only the Surroundings.......NIKK...This was 7 hours ago. Apparently they are waiting for the US to leave...then they will go in to protect.

44 posted on 12/28/2018 10:58:48 AM PST by STARLIT (Hope begins when you're standin in the dark lookin out at the light.)
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To: NIKK

Thank you so much NIKK.


45 posted on 12/28/2018 11:31:10 AM PST by Rusty0604
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPXwkkGRy9Y

Live feed from Manbij....

http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/28122018

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region - The Syrian army announced on Friday that its forces had entered the northern city of Manbij following a call by the Kurdish YPG for government troops to control the city and “protect these areas against a Turkish invasion.”

“Stemming from the complete commitment of the Syrian Army in assuming its responsibilities to impose sovereignty to each inch of the Syrian territories and in response to calls of locals of Menbej city, the General Command of the Army and Armed Forces announces the entry of units of Syrian Arab Army to Menbej city and the hoisting of the Syrian Arab flag,” read a statement from the army using a different spelling from Manbij, reported state-run SANA news Agency.

The deployment came after the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) declared their withdrawal and invited government forces to enter the city.

“Due to the invading Turkish state’s threats to invade northern Syria and displace its people similarly to al-Bab, Jarablus and Afrin, we as the People’s Protection Units, following the withdrawal of our forces from Manbij, announce that our forces will be focusing on the fight against ISIS on all the fronts east of the Euphrates,” read a statement from YPG.

It added that this fact pushed them to invited the Syrian army which is “obliged to protect the same country, nation and borders” and also protect Manbij from Turkish threats.

NIKK...part of article


46 posted on 12/28/2018 1:32:15 PM PST by STARLIT (Hope begins when you're standin in the dark lookin out at the light.)
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