Never Trumpers Fantasize About Tanking U.S. Economy so GOP Backs Impeachment of Donald Trump

Breitbart ^ | 26 Dec 2018 | Matthew Boyle

[conservative98]

Never Trumper John Podhoretz, a contributing editor for the now-defunct Never Trump magazine the Weekly Standard, tweeted on Wednesday that he wondered whether the U.S. economy tanking would lead to President Donald Trump losing enough support from Republicans in Congress that he would be removed from office.

[GOPJ]

Market’s making a comeback - liberal jerks are crying.

[fortheDeclaration]

American consumer confidence is at an all time high, the rollercoaster of the Stock Market won’t change that.

[fortheDeclaration]

Even the GOP isn’t that suicidal.

[eyedigress]

All the never-trumpers should sell every stock on the next dip. That’ll show him!

[Nifster]

True words. Well said

[unlearner]

They are fantasizing about their own suicide.

[adorno]

Suppose the Senate votes to convict on purely political reasons, where does one appeal the conviction?

Something like that would never make it to conviction, and THE PEOPLE would be adamantly against a wrongful impeachment and they wouldn't allow something like that get to conviction. And, last resort, SCOTUS for appeal. And, appeal would take yours to reach an end, which would mean that a president would have finished whatever term he/she was serving.

But, basically, purely political motives would be discarded almost immediately and never get to indictment or impeachment. Would not get even to first base.

[DugwayDuke]

adorno wrote: “Something like that would never make it to conviction, and THE PEOPLE would be adamantly against a wrongful impeachment and they wouldn’t allow something like that get to conviction. And, last resort, SCOTUS for appeal.”

You’re simply wrong on the law.

A federal judge named Walter Nixon (no relation) was criminally tried and found guilty of making false statements to a grand jury. He was then impeached by the House, and tried and convicted by the Senate.

He appealed his conviction in the Senate, on procedural grounds, in Nixon v. United States, 506 U.S. 224 (1993). The Supreme Court held unanimously that impeachment decisions by the House and the ensuing trial in the Senate ate not “justiciable”. That is, no court in the land, including the Supreme Court, can review or overrule them.

Since impeachment and removal from office may not be appealed, then those actions can be taken on whatever basis the House and Senate choose to act upon. The only peaceful response available to the people would be to vote to remove those responsible from office.

[BTerclinger]

I’d be ok with John Podhoretz being kicked over the wall.

[adorno]

A federal judge named Walter Nixon

You're talking about a federal judge, and that's a much lower profile case than impeachment of a president. So, was that case as public as an impeachment of a president would be? Even Bill Clinton didn't make it to conviction, and he actually did commit a federal crime.

[correctthought]

Let’s see:

Have to take it in the shorts, for my own good, because obamacare. Its no more than a cell phone bill if the bill was 1000.00 a month with a 13K deductible. Thanks @holes. That includes the ones who passed it and the ones who failed to repealed it.

Finally starting to do good after a pathetic decade of economic crap. Let’s see, lets make people take it in the shorts by tanking the economy.

There is probably so much more I can think of where these wastes of skin are looking to bury anyone who doesn’t agree with their “game plan”

[DugwayDuke]

adorno wrote: “You’re talking about a federal judge, and that’s a much lower profile case than impeachment of a president. So, was that case as public as an impeachment of a president would be?”

USSC didn’t limit it’s ruling to federal judges. USSC said there was no appeal of impeachment and conviction. Since there is no appeal, impeachment and conviction cannot be limited to criminal offenses. IOW, the House and the Senate determine what the grounds for impeachment and conviction can be and there is no appeal.

[YogicCowboy]

I disagree. Pence is establishment, compatible and controllable.

He folded in Indiana. He would fold in the White House. They know this.

[adorno]

USSC didn’t limit it’s ruling to federal judges.

That's besides the point I was making. The point is that, a federal judge's case is not as high-profile as that of an indictment or impeachment of a president. Impeachment procedures might be the same, but the targets are NOT EQUAL in all cases, and when it comes to the president, it's highly doubtful that the case would be treated the same as with a federal judge or anybody else lower than the president. With the president, THE PEOPLE are involved, and SCOTUS would also be involved. IOW, apples and oranges, as far as the cases involved.

[trebb]

Last I looked, the economy isn’t tanking - the markets are on a wild roller coaster ride though...

[Maris Crane]

It appears that President Trump is NOT a republican.

Well, whatever President Trump is...that is what I want to be.

I don’t have to be a republican, I just want to be someone who recognizes the principles of conservativism:

Limited government
Strong military
Low taxes
And freedom of expression

Is that too much to ask for???

[G Larry]

Think about it for a minute.

If they successfully impeach Trump, you don't think they'd take a shot at a "President Pelosi"?

[DugwayDuke]

adorno wrote: “With the president, THE PEOPLE are involved, and SCOTUS would also be involved. IOW, apples and oranges, as far as the cases involved.”

You can believe whatever you wish but the law is not on your side. USSC has already ruled they have no jurisdiction.

[adorno]

USSC has already ruled they have no jurisdiction.

When it comes to congress and ANYTHING they do, THE PEOPLE are the ultimate deciders, and political decisions almost always bow to how the people feel. Congress made a political decision in NOT following through with the impeachment of Bill Clinton and the case was dropped. You are believing that congress is just a court with no outside input, but the people have proved that kind of thinking to be wrong, many times in the past.

[DugwayDuke]

adorno wrote: “When it comes to congress and ANYTHING they do, THE PEOPLE are the ultimate deciders, and political decisions almost always bow to how the people feel.”

OK, Fine, but you’re the one who claimed there must be a crime for impeachment and conviction. Now, you’re saying that impeachment and conviction is politically driven by the people. Make up your mind.

OK, Fine, too, you claimed, contrary to law, that conviction and impeachment can be appealed to USSC. Evidently, you think that if enough people desire, USSC will overrule precedent and hear the appeal. You do understand that in today’s environment there will be as many demanding USSC take the appeal as demanding that USSC honors precedent?