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New York State Declares War on Private Education
PJ Media ^ | 01/07/2019 | Avner Zarmi

Posted on 01/07/2019 10:25:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In recent years, certain advocacy groups have criticized private Jewish schools, generally known as yeshivoth, claiming that the schools provide a substandard education. At issue is the interpretation of a New York state law passed in the late 19th century that requires private schools to provide an education “substantially equivalent” to that offered in the public schools. Through the decades, the various private school networks, whether religious or non-sectarian, have managed to meet this vague requirement to the satisfaction of local authorities and the New York State Education Department (NYSED).

Until now. Under substantial pressure from an organization called Young Advocates for Fair Education (YAFFED), which has actually filed suit against NYSED to try to force the matter, NYSED recently issued detailed guidelines concerning its interpretation of “substantially equivalent.” The guidelines contain a precise syllabus that must be followed, and also dictate how many hours per week are to be devoted to each of the secular subjects by grade level.

The result threw the world of private education in New York into a tizzy. Most glaringly, the guidance from NYSED required 35 hours a week of secular studies in grades 5 through 8 -- a requirement which would have left virtually no time for sacred studies, the raison d’être of religious schools.

Under intense public pressure via petitions, telephone calls, and emails, NYSED revised the guidelines. It eliminated the time requirements in grades 5 and 6, and cut the amount of time required for secular education in grades 7 and 8 roughly by half.

While that represented an improvement, it does not change the fact that suddenly, after over a century of peaceful co-existence, New York’s public education authority is attempting to dictate the content and form of secular education in private schools with different value systems.

To present an idea of the potential impact this would have on the yeshivoth: Such schools often begin the day at 7:30 a.m. with the first of three daily prayer services, and continue until 5:30 or 6:00 p.m., devoting time in the afternoon to core secular subjects such as mathematics, English, social studies, and science. The primary emphasis, however, is on sacred studies.

The term “sacred” may suggest to anyone who has not grown up in the yeshiva system some sort of catechization or lectures in dogma. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth.

Elementary instruction begins with an intensive course in accurate reading and pronunciation of written Hebrew, and rapidly proceeds to reading and analysis of Biblical texts in the original language with emphasis on correct translations and understanding. As they progress, the children learn to analyze the texts and are encouraged to ask their own questions. Why does this passage appear here instead of some other place? Why is this word used rather than another? What was the motivation of this Biblical character? Students are encouraged to seek answers through the use of classical commentaries, some two millennia old.

In addition to this core curriculum, the children learn simple, applied halacha (“Jewish law”) concerning everyday practices, Jewish history, and moral and ethical training, all using classical Jewish sources.

In high school, the emphasis is changed. Even though they might have attended mixed classes in elementary school (at least in the lower grades), boys and girls now attend separate schools. The girls receive a much larger dose of secular studies, but also continue intensive Biblical studies with commentaries, practical halacha, and moral and ethical studies with an emphasis on Jewish philosophical writings.

The boys begin an intensive study of the Talmud. Written in a mixture of Hebrew and Aramaic, these texts were originally codified between 1,500 and 2,000 years ago in the Middle East (modern-day Israel and Iraq). The boys learn to pursue complex legal arguments, often expressed in a dialectic between several different sources, which they must understand and disentangle, using classical commentaries written in the same language. Though there is generally a daily lecture with an experienced instructor, which is usually quite interactive, these studies rapidly become quite autonomous. The students are generally divided in pairs (the technical term is chavrutha’oth) to review previously covered material, and to prepare material for the next day’s lecture. This is in addition to more moral and ethical instruction, and a more intensive study of halacha. Typically the school day runs to 9:00 p.m. or later, Sunday through Thursday (Fridays are shortened somewhat to enable preparations for the sabbath).

These studies involving intensive textual analysis steep the student in logic, critical thinking, and, in some cases, mathematical and geometrical reasoning and analysis. As a result, graduates of such academies are well-rounded and frequently go on to attend top-notch universities with an eye towards professional careers, often acquiring a state regents diploma on graduation.

All this without state intervention.

Aside from the unwanted micro-management, another problem is buried in the details of the NYSED guidelines: a requirement that all private schools in New York incorporate specific amounts of time to address such issues as “gender fluidity” and alternate sexual lifestyles.

Needless to say, schools which have been based on the principles of Biblical morality (including, most specifically, Leviticus XX, 18) are not the least bit interested in this particular set of modern innovations.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: education; newyork; privateschools
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1 posted on 01/07/2019 10:25:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Is Young Advocates for Fair Education a communist front group?


2 posted on 01/07/2019 10:31:31 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“In recent years, certain advocacy groups have criticized private Jewish schools, generally known as yeshivoth, claiming that the schools provide a substandard education.”

Of course. This is why Jews achieve so little academically..
This is really nuts.

3 posted on 01/07/2019 10:38:25 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: SeekAndFind

I went to yeshiva from 2nd - 5th grade and then when to public schools there after. Going to yeshiva harmed me as it wan’t until 9th grade that the public schools caught up with my 5th grade yeshiva fed education.


4 posted on 01/07/2019 10:39:35 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: BenLurkin

There appears to be no outrage too severe that it will not be ignored by the New York Jewish community, who continue to support the Jew-hating Democrats in highly disproportionate numbers. You would think by now that basic survival instinct would have woken that community to the genuine threat they are under from the left, but the vast majority still appear to be slumbering.


5 posted on 01/07/2019 10:39:39 AM PST by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: SeekAndFind
substantially equivalent

Maybe the equivalencies between private and public education should include the graduation and drop out rates? Maybe even the juvenile criminal recidivism rate?

6 posted on 01/07/2019 10:43:48 AM PST by capydick (“Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How difficult would it be to compare standardized testing between private and public schools?


7 posted on 01/07/2019 10:46:41 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: BenLurkin

RE: Is Young Advocates for Fair Education a communist front group?

We should always be doubly cautious when a group uses the word “Fair” for their name. It is often code for forced confiscation or coerced compliance.


8 posted on 01/07/2019 10:49:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

My immediate response might be, who cares - the Jews are all liberal Democrats and perhaps it’s good that they confront their own elected officials they voted for. But then I am reminded of the old saying, First they came for the Jews...and I feel I must defend this injustice.


9 posted on 01/07/2019 10:52:26 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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> How difficult would it be to compare standardized testing between private and public schools? <

Bingo! That’s all that would be needed. Just look at the results. No new regulations. But that will never happen. Because a state/yeshiva comparison would embarrass the state HUGELY.


10 posted on 01/07/2019 10:57:02 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: littleharbour
There appears to be no outrage too severe that it will not be ignored by the New York Jewish community, who continue to support the Jew-hating Democrats in highly disproportionate numbers. You would think by now that basic survival instinct would have woken that community to the genuine threat they are under from the left, but the vast majority still appear to be slumbering.

Ha! Those parents who send their kids to yeshivot vs. public schools are generally the Orthodox parents, who are conservatives. Very few of them have liberal views. They do not vote for libtard candidates if more conservative candidates are on the ballot.

11 posted on 01/07/2019 10:58:11 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: 1Old Pro
So, does New York figure that Yoder v. Wisconsin doesn't apply in the Empire State?
12 posted on 01/07/2019 10:59:15 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: SeekAndFind

Will this apply to islam schools?


13 posted on 01/07/2019 11:04:10 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: SeekAndFind

Mandatory education is slavery.


14 posted on 01/07/2019 11:05:56 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: 1Old Pro

The article is written from the point of view of Jewish concerns, but it affects Catholics as well.


15 posted on 01/07/2019 11:09:51 AM PST by buwaya
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The article is written from the point of view of Jewish concerns, but it affects Catholics as well.

It effects all competition to the failed public schools.

16 posted on 01/07/2019 11:11:05 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Religious Jews are used to sending their children away for education. Catholics are too used to Catholic schools, which are slipping away from them.


17 posted on 01/07/2019 11:13:36 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: 1Old Pro

RE: My immediate response might be, who cares - the Jews are all liberal Democrats and perhaps it’s good that they confront their own elected officials they voted for.

Don’t confuse the mostly liberal Jews with this group that are teaching their children the Torah and the Talmud.


18 posted on 01/07/2019 11:16:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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‘Bout time New York State really zeroed in on Jewish academic underachievement.


19 posted on 01/07/2019 11:36:46 AM PST by sphinx
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To: SeekAndFind

I taught with a great many NYC teachers who taught secular subjects in Yeshivas for extra money. Many of them said the emphasis on secular ed was fine, but some of the same teachers also taught in Yeshivas where the education particularly in math and science was abysmal. The trustees and rabbis pointed to having quality NYC teachers but the time allowed and materials provided insured the students learned very little.


20 posted on 01/07/2019 11:58:10 AM PST by xkaydet65
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