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Appeals court upholds law barring immigrants in U.S. illegally from owning guns
latimes.com ^ | January 8, 2019 | Maura Dolan

Posted on 01/08/2019 7:47:54 PM PST by lowbridge

A law barring immigrants who are in the country without authorization from owning guns does not violate the 2nd Amendment, a federal appeals court decided Tuesday.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected an appeal by Victor Manuel Torres, a San Jose resident who was convicted of violating the federal law.

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“The government’s interests in controlling crime and ensuring public safety are promoted by keeping firearms out of the hands of unlawful aliens,” wrote 9th Circuit Judge N. Randy Smith, an appointee of former President George W. Bush.

The panel noted that immigrants who lack documentation are subject to deportation and “are difficult to monitor due to an inherent incentive to falsify information and evade law enforcement.”

These immigrants “have already shown they are unable or unwilling to conform their conduct to the laws of this country,” Smith wrote, joined by 9th Circuit Chief Judge Sidney R. Thomas, an appointee of former President Clinton, and Sharon L. Gleason, a district judge from Alaska appointed by former President Obama.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist; guns; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/08/2019 7:47:54 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Oy vey! Someone is actually defending the 2nd Amendment rights of illegal aliens? Even the 9th Circus had to quash that.


2 posted on 01/08/2019 7:50:29 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: lowbridge

Illegal aliens shouldn’t have a right to own anything other than the clothes on their backs.


3 posted on 01/08/2019 7:50:33 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: lowbridge

Amazing, I was beginning to think illegal aliens had more rights than citizens.


4 posted on 01/08/2019 7:52:49 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: lowbridge

A real “common-sense” gun law.


5 posted on 01/08/2019 7:52:58 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: lowbridge

The only right the illegal alien should have is the right to be deported.


6 posted on 01/08/2019 7:54:05 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Bingo!!!


7 posted on 01/08/2019 7:55:20 PM PST by Fungi
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To: lowbridge

They don’t need to own them. Kate Steinle.


8 posted on 01/08/2019 7:55:31 PM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: lowbridge

hmmmm....wouldn’t this set a precedent for the other Amendments, ie Rights...illegals supposedly have according to some?


9 posted on 01/08/2019 7:55:48 PM PST by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: lowbridge; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; LS

I’m sure that’ll stop them, because illegals would NEVER do anything illegal, right ?


10 posted on 01/08/2019 7:57:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Lurkinanloomin

IIRC - the Muslim who was at the Boston Marathon and was arrested running away from the bombing- I think he owned a gold pistol of some sort, maybe a revolver. He was the one who had overstayed his visa, was living on the water front, and Mooshelle visited him in his hospital room. (Apparently she didn’t visit any of the bombing victims - only the muzzie they had arrested)


11 posted on 01/08/2019 7:57:21 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: lowbridge
By definition, they are criminals and cannot be in possession of firearms with out enhanced penalties.

*Possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime.

12 posted on 01/08/2019 8:00:42 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Lysandru

...The government’s interests in controlling crime and ensuring public safety are promoted by keeping firearms out of the hands of unlawful aliens...

From the 9thCircuit!
The same rationale for having a wall.


13 posted on 01/08/2019 8:01:53 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: lowbridge; Liz; AuntB; greyfoxx39; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; ...

PING


14 posted on 01/08/2019 8:02:44 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: goodnesswins

Logically yes. Though we know courts make things up as they go along.


15 posted on 01/08/2019 8:07:08 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: TigersEye

Americans cant have guns in mexico. Or even own private property real estate as individuals.


16 posted on 01/08/2019 8:15:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lowbridge

GOOD decision.

Yours, TMN78247


17 posted on 01/08/2019 8:16:00 PM PST by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: Secret Agent Man

And that’s Americans who are legally in Mexico.


18 posted on 01/08/2019 8:18:34 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: lowbridge

That could open the door to smart prosecutors in the future contending that illegals do not have inherent constitutional rights.

This ruling will likely head to the SC.


19 posted on 01/08/2019 8:19:07 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: lowbridge

So what?

We have laws to keep citizens from illegally owning guns.

A criminal invader should not be exempt from obeying the laws of this country.

If that’s the case, I’m going to renounce my citizenship and learn Spanish.


20 posted on 01/08/2019 8:21:50 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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