Posted on 01/09/2019 1:56:21 PM PST by Red Badger
House Budget Committee Chairman John Yarmuth, D-Ky., has asked the Congressional Budget Office to analyze the effects of shifting all healthcare costs onto the federal government, a first step toward the "Medicare for all" legislation sought by progressives.
"Members of Congress developing proposals seeking to establish a single-payer system will face many important decisions that could have major implications for federal spending, national healthcare spending, and access to care," Yarmuth said in a letter to Keith Hall, the director of the CBO.
Yarmuth didn't ask for an analysis of a specific bill, but asked the nonpartisan scorekeeping agency various questions lawmakers should consider as they seek to overhaul the healthcare system.
The ACA made it possible for millions to gain health insurance for the first time. But there are still too many Americans who cannot afford their health care costs.
Today, I requested a CBO report on various proposals to establish a single-payer health care system in the U.S. pic.twitter.com/jlcKlbgr81 — Rep. John Yarmuth (@RepJohnYarmuth) January 8, 2019
Yarmuth said in a statement that his request for the score is aimed to inform House hearings on "single payer," proposals. Such hearings would be the first step in the process toward passing legislation enacting single payer systems, a top goal pursued by progressives like Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.
In the letter, he asked CBO to evaluate how the healthcare system would be financed, whether private insurance companies would play a role, whether patients would face any costs, what methods would be put in place to contain costs, what rules would be placed on hospitals and doctors, how to set reimbursement rates, whether to do away with other government healthcare programs in favor of a single one.
Yarmuth is a co-sponsor of the Medicare for All Act, a bill that would enroll everyone in the U.S. onto the Medicare program, doing away with private insurance, Medicaid, and other government programs. Currently more than 55 million are enrolled in the program, which covers adults 65 and older as well as people with disabilities.
One study from the free-market Mercatus Center at George Mason University estimated that government spending on healthcare would rise by $32.6 trillion over a decade in a single-payer system, an estimate that is in line with an earlier study by the left-leaning Urban Institute.
The study concluded that overall spending, not just government spending, would be $2 trillion less compared to where spending is projected under the current healthcare system, but that would come mostly through cutting payments that hospitals and other providers were getting from private insurance by about 40 percent. Higher taxes may be under consideration to have Medicare payments align more closely with those of private insurers.
Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., had asked CBO to score the Medicare for All Act introduced by Sanders. In taking up various requests, CBO analysts tend to focus on bills that are closer to passage.
Id like to see these same commies in Govt get the single payer health care FIRST, see how they enjoy waiting 4 months to get a CT Scan..these commies can do whatever they want in the house, wont pass the Senate, so all they are doing is putting on a show for their freak base
Nancy’s Nut House is now in session. The crazy squirrels are running loose and wild.
Sure it won’t pass - now. The lefties play the long game.
Haven’t heard that one for a long time.
” Democratic chairman begins prep work for legislation to enact ‘single payer’ healthcare”
And I am sure if that passed, the next thing Congress would do is exempt themselves from it like they did for Obamacare.
Good luck with that..
I hate these commie illegitimate sons of female canines.
They just never quit. What’s going to be the key issue in 2020? Green New Deal? Border Security? Medicare for All? or maybe Draining the Swamp?
Die, scum.
First:
egalitarianism = evasion of reality about false entitlements & false rights + abolition of causality in the spending of income + collectivization of costs (where costs are paid for by confiscatory taxation)
then:
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE =
(egalitarianism + medical price & wage controls + government bureaucratization + force/aggression/power) which causes:
-decreased apparent prices for medical services & decreased apparent cost to the individual patient for medical services
-increased aggregate demand for and consumption of medical services by individuals (due to decreased prices and decreased costs to the individual)
-constant and continuous tendency to increase total costs of the system as a whole, causing excessive costs (due to increases in demand and consumption by individuals, and the abolition of causality in the spending of income, which leads to the abolition of the need to worry about cost when spending income, when cost is collectivized)
(The costs are judged as excessive when compared to the rational standard of value of capitalism and limited government, which prohibits egalitarianism + false rights + medical price & wage controls + government bureaucratization + force/aggression/power + collectivization of costs, and thus is the proper standard of value that is compatible with a society that values objective rational principles such as individualism, freedom, and all other natural rights)
-increased government force = wage and price controls (to reduce excessive costs)
-increased government force = controls over methods of treatment (to reduce excessive costs)
-death panels & aged become sacrificial victims (to reduce excessive costs)
-decreased technological advances and decreased technological progress in medicine (to reduce excessive costs)
-constant and continuous increased waste and inefficiency (due to government bureaucratization of the medical system)
-enslavement of doctors and intolerable working conditions (due to government force/aggression/power to control doctor’s fees and methods of treatment, which cause doctors with a high level of self esteem to feel like slaves working in intolerable working conditions)
-decreased supply of doctors = shortages of doctors (due to intolerable working conditions and enslavement of doctors which causes old doctors retire early and discourages young people from entering the medical profession)
-decreased quality and quantity of medical services for each individual patient + rationing & long waiting lines/times (due to increased demand for and consumption of medical service, plus decreased supply of labor due to shortages of doctors)
-hatred of the doctor by the patient (due to decrease in quality and quantity of service by the doctor)
-decreased value of each individual patient to a doctor (due to medical wage and price controls + shortages of doctors + rationing + waiting lines/times. These conditions make make doctors feel like victims, because they are being exploited by angry patients who want better quality and quantity of service, but without proper payment. Victimization of doctors + intolerable working conditions + over supply of patients + law of diminishing marginal utility of each additional patient that needs to be seen = decreased value of each individual patient to the doctor)
WARNING to liberals/leftists: You can choose to evade the realities of socialized medicine, but you cannot evade the disastrous consequences of evasion of reality.
It will be interesting to see what the CBO says.
Yeah, Obamacare worked so well, let’s go for the whole enchilada.
All these initiatives out of the house are kind of like Newt Gingrich’s contract with America. Bills passed out of the house to die in the Senate. So its all for show and posturing.
Actually what they are saying is ACA didn’t work.
They will probably try to pull some trick and strip some bill from the Senate and stuff their commie crap into it. We are at war folks. Started by Chief Justice Robert’s. Too bad he wont be around to see it end. So says my crystal ball.
But even if all citizens thought that the corrupt feds could manage a national healthcare program, it remains that the Roberts Court “overlooked” that previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices had repeatedly clarified that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, make policy, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare.
From related threads …
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass.” —Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)
"Obviously, direct control of medical practice [emphases added] in the states is beyond the power of the federal government.” —Linder v. United States, 1925.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
"It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.” — Justice Brandeis, Laboratories of democracy.
Also, consider the unconstitutional Obamacare insurance mandate. Note that the Supremes also “overlooked” the Court’s decision in Paul v. Virginia which clarified that Congress’s Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3) do not extend to regulating insurance contracts, regardless if buyer and seller are domiciled in different states.
"4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract [emphases added] of indemnity against loss.” —Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
Unsurprisingly, FDR's state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices later overturned Paul v. Virigina.
Next, noting that Congress would first have to successfully propose a healthcare amendment to Constitution to the states before establishing a national healthcare program, please consider the following.
It is very disturbing that Speaker Pelosi years ago had scandalously ignored a repeatedly introduced House resolution to propose a healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states before irresponsibly ramming unconstitutional Obamacare through the House.
If Speaker Pelosi had done her sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution by winning a healthcare amendment to the Constitution before ramming Obamacare, then I wouldn’t be making this post.
And until the states wise up and put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes indicated by the Gibbons v. Ogden excerpt above, they probably won’t find the revenues to experiment with their own, individual healthcare programs as the Justice Brandeis excerpt above tells us.
"The “Holy Grail” of organized crime is to control government power to tax." —me
"The constitutionally undefined political parties are basically competing, corrupt voter unions, union dues paid by means of unconstitutional federal taxes.” —me
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most appropriations laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me
"The Health Policy Center (like TPC, a project of the Urban Institute, a D.C. think tank) estimated that Sanders' health proposal would cost the government an additional $32 trillion (over 10 years) to what it pays now."
That is, single payer health insurance would cost an additional $3.2 trillion per year. The US federal budget is currently about $4.4 trillion per year.
https://www.npr.org/2016/05/09/477402982/study-sanders-proposals-would-add-18-trillion-to-debt-over-10-years
“House Budget Committee Chairman John Yarmuth, D-Ky., has asked the Congressional Budget Office to analyze the effects of shifting all healthcare costs onto the federal government, a first step toward the “Medicare for all” legislation sought by progressives.”
That’s so cute.
And they will remain exempt for life. And their children. And their children’s children.
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