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Grand irony. The very definition thereof.

Democrats/liberals now see a Trump declaration of emergency as a way out of their mess.

It just doesn't get any better than this.

Do they realize they've been had?

1 posted on 01/11/2019 2:07:54 PM PST by Mariner
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Absolutely right - and I think all the tv/radio talking heads who are pushing for the President to hurry up and issue an EO are RINOs/Establishment sellouts.

RINOs want business as usual as much as the Democrats do.


2 posted on 01/11/2019 2:11:02 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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“We want Congress to do its job,” Trump said.

Well, they’re not going to...BUILD THE FARKIN WALL!!

I’m getting sick of this sh!t


3 posted on 01/11/2019 2:18:46 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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I’ve been thinking that with a lot of prior planning, worthless and useless government agencies that need major cutbacks in personnel should be put on the “to be shutdown” list. So when the shutdown happens, more and more of the deadwood will quit.

Then, tell the agency heads to not refill the empty slots.


4 posted on 01/11/2019 2:23:32 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("There is no 'try' only sasuga!")
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"We want Congress to do its job," Trump said. "What we're not looking to do – right now – is a national emergency."

It IS a national emergency that the Democrats could end in a heartbeat. The Democrats do not care how many Americans are murdered by illegal aliens. The Democrats could prevent that but they think that the illegal aliens are more important than American citizens.

Are the Democrats anti-American?

Democrats clearly do not want to make American Great Again do they?

Are Nancy and Chuck so consumed with hate that they will not stop the government shutdown?

Common sense is NOT in their side. The problem of lack of border control has been going on for more than thirty years. It is time to fix it.

5 posted on 01/11/2019 2:28:28 PM PST by olezip
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Let them roast in their own juices, until well done. Crispy.


6 posted on 01/11/2019 2:34:19 PM PST by BeauBo
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Looks like POTUS is losing course. Too many weak advisors?
For instance, his legal advice: I love ACLJ, but Jay Sekulow is way too nice and verses in modern/precedent law, rather than USConstitutional law.

Fight, or perish, USA.


7 posted on 01/11/2019 2:36:30 PM PST by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam ; Dems may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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Trump 3-D chess move !!! Trump is riding a wave and the RATs are trapped. They can’t cave til AFTER the SOTU else Trump would look like Caesar coming into Rome after defeating Gaul.

Meanwhile, their Gov’t workers will be clambering for a paycheck.

Master move President Trump !!!

8 posted on 01/11/2019 2:38:11 PM PST by 11th_VA (Hey RATs - Negotiate or Starve)
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What a shame as the Congressional Staff used by the Dems get no pay. No pay, no investigation of Trump.

What a shame. /s


11 posted on 01/11/2019 2:47:21 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Cause some emergencies can wait....

I of course support the President 100 percent but the fact that he is waiting on declaring a national emergency calls into question whether an emergency exists in the first place. If a situation of any kind is defined as an emergency then by definition, time is of the essence. By trying to first lobby congress to act and only upon failing to gain support of congress does he declare an emergency, IMO that totally discredits the notion that an emergency exists at all.

Second if the President has the power to declare an emergency it would also follow he has the authority to take action on that emergency. If this is the case as most of the Republicans are saying then the action could not be subject to review by the courts. If an emergency declaration from the President is subject to review by a court then the President can only recommend this issue be declared a national emergency and it's the court that has the ultimate say so. Also what if the "emergency" happens on a holiday? Do we still have to wait for court approval? Does anyone remember having an emergency of any kind and thinking hurry someone call a Federal court? Does anyone have the 9th Circuit 24 hour emergency phone number just in case some national emergency comes up and we need to call them at say 2 in the morning? If the courts can interject and stop the Presidents emergency action then the President DOES NOT have the power in the first place. The court is then going to make the decision if the border condition is an emergency or not. I myself did not realize the courts were in fact running the country and any Presidential action must first be authorized by the court. Does anyone remember who they voted for when it comes to the courts that decide everything in our Country? For the life of me I can't remember voting for any judge. Sorry for the rant but this whole thing is utterly absurd.

17 posted on 01/11/2019 3:17:38 PM PST by precisionshootist
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After House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., earlier Friday on the floor criticized House Majority Leader Steny B. Hoyer of Maryland and House leaders for sending members home rather than keeping them in Washington as the shutdown dragged on, Trump called on both chambers to "come back and vote."

Can you say,"Recess Appointments ho!"

21 posted on 01/11/2019 3:39:30 PM PST by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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Keep it shut down for all I care. It’s just saving “some” money. It’s about the only way for any spending cuts.


22 posted on 01/11/2019 3:46:12 PM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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Shutdown could drag on as Trump won’t move ‘fast’ on national emergency for wall

_________________

That is the lie.
Shutdown could drag on as Pelosi/Shumer won’t Protect the Country.


25 posted on 01/11/2019 4:02:55 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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Not IMO. I think they’re doing a deal that won’t be announced together, as it would upset Trump’s base too much. So first comes the announcement that for something or other, such as the free healthcare for children he announced this past week, Trump gets some more funds for fence repair.

Then, comes the subsequent “negotiations” that will include DACA amnesty, citizenship for H1-B (Trump already tweeted that out today), etc.


26 posted on 01/11/2019 4:07:43 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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Lyin’ SacaBeeStalin....


28 posted on 01/11/2019 4:51:14 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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Let him build the case for shaving 20% reduction in government Workforce. Over time it will show that they are not necessary and things probably work better without them.


33 posted on 01/11/2019 6:11:56 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Either the Wall gets built or America becomes a democrat socialist state.)
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Yep - President Trump has therm over a barrel and they actually brought the barrel and assumed the position all by themselves....love it.


37 posted on 01/12/2019 3:37:48 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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