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They still miss the point. What are we talking about? The border and a wall. What are we not talking about? Investigations and impeachment of Trump. The president has thrown the Libs off their game plan. He has backed them into a corner which the will die, lack of security and crime. What do people need, food, money and security. What are the Dem’s against, food, money and security! Against those basics is not a winning position! Trump has supplied money (jobs) and working on security. All the Dem’s have been against Jobs and Security! They are so blind with hate of Trump that they cannot see the positions Trump has backed them into....

What are we not talking about? Investigations and impeachment of Trump.
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I know President Trump is wining on the wall issue because as I cruise the channels I see a great deal of Russia Russia Russia on cnn, msnbc and Fox. When Trump is winning they go full Russia to divert the topic. It is their “safe place”.

".....What are the Dem’s against, food, money and security! Against those basics is not a winning position! Trump has supplied money (jobs) and working on security. All the Dem’s have been against Jobs and Security! They are so blind with hate of Trump that they cannot see the positions Trump has backed them into..."

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Well said sir. And you are right that they are largely off their agenda of Trump hating and impeachment, though some of the single-minded in Congress like Al Green live and breath impeachment.

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And did I mention Donny Deutsch is a nasty, vile little man?

“What are the Dem’s against, food, money and security!”

I think the Dims are betting on a final breaking point. If they can force a long government shutdown, they believe the sense of insecurity about those things will win the day for them. Here in DC, there already have been tons of sob stories about the financial impact of the shutdown, and there are more and more stories about how the food stamp/EBT system will run out of money. There are stories of federal workers losing their houses and Section 8 people losing their apartments. Food banks are asking for increased donations to meet the expected increase in demand from federal workers. Along with this hysteria, there’s the unsaid threat of violence when things stop being free.

This is a power grab by the Dims like we have never seen before. I believe they’re hoping for something bigger than the WWI vet riots and Hoovervilles, all timed to coincide with the impeachment of Pres. Trump.

However, I believe it could really be the end of the Dim Party, as its membership splinters over ideology vs reality.