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Ocasio-Cortez sparks debate with talk of 70 percent marginal rate
The Hill ^ | 01/12/19 | Naomi Jagoda and Juliegrace Brufke

Posted on 01/12/2019 10:30:38 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: yesthatjallen

When Democrats talk about “fair share”, they really mean 100% (except for themselves, of course).


41 posted on 01/12/2019 11:16:20 AM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: taxcontrol

“It is call equal treatment under the law.”

Progressive taxation is equal treatment under the law.

If I was to own a mansion, I would pay the property taxes associated with the mansion, which are determined based on market valuation.

If you think otherwise, file suit to revoke Amendment XVI ratifications as being violative of Amendment XIV.

We’ve always had unequal property taxation in the United States.


42 posted on 01/12/2019 11:19:10 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: yesthatjallen

They’re being nice,so far - but if you don’t think her meteoric rise and spotlight stealing hasn’t made the rank and file Dem congress critters livid, think again.


43 posted on 01/12/2019 11:19:25 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Rep. Pramila Jayapal and Rep Rashida Tlaib


44 posted on 01/12/2019 11:21:32 AM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Callan
I hear he's shaved now....but e's running the show....and this with another character on the outside....

He has big policy socialist dreams with his sights set squarely on the halls of power. His agenda is the “Green New Deal,” transforming the American economy, and criminal justice reform. .He wants to lay the groundwork now to make them realities by launching/supporting hundreds of progressive/socialist candidates into congressional races.

Here's his outside guy....."Waleed Shahid"...Communications Director at "Justice Dems" (socialist)..Justice Dems are who gave Ocasio-Cortez media and policy training.


45 posted on 01/12/2019 11:22:57 AM PST by caww
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To: Brian Griffin
When did property taxes enter the picture ...?

I thought everything being talked about to this point was income taxes.

I agree with T.P. Pole in #38 ...

Are you sure that you aren't looking for Democratic Underground or Huffington Post?

46 posted on 01/12/2019 11:23:25 AM PST by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“What the hell has that got to do with how people should be taxed?”

Reality.

Not enough income for a waiter to pay a 40% tax rate.

Not practical. We can’t have most waiters sleeping on the sidewalks.

If you insist on impractical proposals, you will get nowhere.

A doctor can pay 70% on a doctor’s income and live in a house.

A doctor can pay 70% on a doctor’s income and live in a mansion.

I can’t pay 70% and get by.

Just is.

Accept reality.


47 posted on 01/12/2019 11:25:45 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: taxcontrol

“It is call equal treatment under the law.”

Equal treatment under the law is not required of the federal government.

The federal government can draft males and send them to the jungles of Asia to fight and die and give free goodies to females.


48 posted on 01/12/2019 11:28:08 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: yesthatjallen

If AOC is serious about raising taxes on the wealthy, she should simply propose a law eliminating tax shelters, for example, off-shore tax havens like the Cayman Islands.

But the Democrats never propose such things — probably because their main source of campaign donations is Wall Street and its many millionaires.

In fact, the only reasonable explanation for why Wall Street fills the Democrats’ campaign coffers every election season is to bribe the Democrats not to eliminate their precious tax shelters.


49 posted on 01/12/2019 11:30:58 AM PST by humbleexpert
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To: caww; BenLurkin; Callan

There’s sure a lot of 3rd world imports involved in trying to force the Social Democrat agenda on this country.

Fits in with what transformed California over the years. Too many imagine that illegal immigration was the driving force, but it’s legal immigrants who vote and they have been voting left.


50 posted on 01/12/2019 11:31:21 AM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Brian Griffin

Not enough income for a waiter to pay a 40% tax rate.

Not practical. We can’t have most waiters sleeping on the sidewalks.
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You are dealing with LIBs and Socialists here..

IF the Restaurant owner can pay the 15 or 20 or whatever per hour to the bus boy, he can afford to pay the busboys apartment rent

Of course no one in ‘the group’ understands that when the prices are so high to ‘cover everything’ there will either be robot staffs OR the owner will close his doors and look for a job where someone has to take care of him.

The answer to EVERYTING in the LIB/Socialist world is based on OPM and when OP say this is enough....well you get the point....


51 posted on 01/12/2019 11:31:52 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98"Getting rich as a Politician means doing something illegal''(trunc) HS Truman)
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To: yesthatjallen
...“the fact that people are not paying their fair share...

That is not a "fact", it is an opinion...

52 posted on 01/12/2019 11:32:14 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: yesthatjallen

Those silicon millionaires are going to need to get her to exempt their stock options.


53 posted on 01/12/2019 11:32:21 AM PST by PAR35
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To: BlueLancer

“Are you sure that you aren’t looking for Democratic Underground or Huffington Post?”

I am a realistic conservative.

My beliefs are tempered by reality and human psychology.

I am as conservative as reality and human psychology allow.


54 posted on 01/12/2019 11:32:37 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Herman Ball
Who's going to decide what the "so much for each person in the family" is?

I hope you simply forgot the /s.

55 posted on 01/12/2019 11:34:24 AM PST by skimbell
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To: yesthatjallen
These characters always 'hide' behind the scenes...it's no accident that Cortez , who is reasonably attactive and a woman as well as easily manipulated, was 'selected' to push these characters message. They would never be accepted themselves...so they stand behind her as she pushes THEIR message and agenda.

She screws up so often because she can't remember what these guys teach and taught her about politics.......come on she was a bartender!


56 posted on 01/12/2019 11:34:36 AM PST by caww
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To: yesthatjallen

I suggest a trial to see how it works. A small sampling, say the 535 members of Congress.


57 posted on 01/12/2019 11:36:44 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: caww
Not my quote:

"Behind every woman with an economics degree, there’s a man who read the economist once explaining things to her."

58 posted on 01/12/2019 11:37:22 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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I am 51. I have been a workaholic my entire life to the point that I even had a quadruple bypass at 45. Despite radical changes to my diet, excerise, and “sin” habits (quit chewing just before heart surgery without knowing I needed heart surgery). I have also quit caffeine alcohol, salt, and sugar, and have even become fairly fanatical about nutrition. And despite this, my blood pressure is rarely under 180 or 190. I say this not to complain, I made my choices, but as an announcement that I will retire and remove myself from the tax pool. I have sacrificed a lot in life, but It is not about dollar amounts. Being a salaried employee, I work a krap-ton of “overtime”. I do not make a single extra dime for every hour of overtime I work. A 100 work week is not uncommon. A 21 day “work week” is not uncommon.All it does is increase the number of hours a week and thus the percentage of my time in involuntary servitude to others who did not sacrifice anything keeping up with the latest technology, or keeping sharp in science and mathematics while away from “home” 40+ weeks a year going on 3 decades. A 70% tax rate means that on my 100 hour work week that I am spending 70 hours working for layabouts. On a 40 hour work week, I am working 28 of those hours in servitude to others. Not for roads, or bridges, and certainly not national defense for everybody, but to do things like pay for EBT so “the poor” can drive up to the supermarket in their escalades and purchase the best cuts of meat unavailable to the average family which they promptly sell to the black market for cash. I will not be a slave anymore


59 posted on 01/12/2019 11:38:07 AM PST by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: Pelham
......”There’s sure a lot of 3rd world imports involved in trying to force the Social Democrat agenda on this country”....

Straight out of liberal/progressive universities into the halls of power....though most work ‘hidden’ behind a personage used as their front as with Cortez. They do not just forget the cultural social leanings they were raised with, rather desire to install those in our country to change our country into the very failed systems they come from. BECAUSE they believe themselves superior to those who tried socialism before....that they have the right way now to implement it.

60 posted on 01/12/2019 11:40:58 AM PST by caww
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