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These were the actual FBI rules in effect on deadly force at the time of Ruby ridge.

“Agents are not to use deadly force against any person except as necessary in self-defense or the defense of another, when they have reason to believe that they or another are in danger of death or grievous bodily harm. Whenever feasible, verbal warnings should be given before deadly force is applied.”

These are the “special ROE” The FBI under Barr put out at Ruby Ridge.

“If any adult in the area around the cabin is observed with a weapon after the surrender announcement had been made, deadly force could and should be used to neutralize the individual.”
“If any adult male is observed with a weapon prior to the announcement deadly force can and should be employed if the shot could be taken without endangering any children.”

The FBI makes up whatever “rule” it needs. If any local police department adopted this same rule at a SWAT standoff, The DOJ/FBI would immediately launch a pattern and practices lawsuit and go for a consent decree with them running that department.

Ditto if a local department decided it would never record interactions or interviews and instead decided they would have the cop involved just wrote a synopsis of the interview.

The FBI is corrupt


4 posted on 01/16/2019 2:41:14 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

LH went for a twofer but wound up only killing Weaver’s wife who was holding a child. Weaver was awarded (5?) Millions for wrongful death, if I recall correctly.

From my perspective all these sons of Belial are murderously corrupt and deserve Federal prison or the gallows.

Deuteronomy 32:35 —

Vengeance is Mine; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; for their day of disaster is near, and their doom is coming quickly.

Justice can’t come quickly enough.


26 posted on 01/17/2019 2:52:05 AM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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