Posted on 01/17/2019 8:57:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Senate Democrats are refusing to embrace House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s rhetoric denouncing border walls as an “immorality,” but they are being careful to avoid undercutting her new role as the party’s leader in the shutdown standoff.
Mrs. Pelosi has moved unsteadily since seizing the speaker’s gavel amid the partial government shutdown, including the “immorality” comment and her shifting explanations for why she told President Trump to postpone the State of the Union address.
Still, she garners strong support from Democrats on both side of the Capitol for remaining steadfast in shutdown fight and refusing Mr. Trump’s demand for $5.7 billion for border security.
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, Rhode Island Democrat, balked at her bringing morality into the border wall dispute.
“That’s not a word that I’ve used,” he said.
Mr. Whitehouse hesitated to say Mrs. Pelosi speaks for Senate Democrats in the shutdown debate, though he applauded her for suggesting Mr. Trump postpone the Jan. 29 State of the...
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What saddens me is that I don’t think we really need a wall if the government does it’s job. The problem is any POTUS can instruct ICE not to do their jobs. A wall will insure that they will no matter what the POTUS thinks or does.
A political party that knew its business would exploit this fissure to the max, doing everything possible to enlarge it.
The Democrats do it to us all the time.
Her calling the wall a moral issue is an attempt to shut down debate.
Al Gore does this on global warming. He calls it a moral issue. Why? To shut down and shout down any opponents as being immoral.
Are you referring to a so called “stupid” party? What party might that be? /s
I have been doing quite a bit of reading about this over the last 2-3 weeks, because I started to wonder about just how much influence the drug money has in Washington. Because I am retired, I have the time to go to the UNR library and really dig into it. Honestly, I think we need the “big beautiful wall,” in conjunction with high tech. I am alarmed at just how much money the cartels have to spread around in Washington. I just didn’t realize just insidious and pervasive their influence is!
“What saddens me is that I don’t think we really need a wall if the government does it’s job.”
I don’t think that there is any substitute for a wall at this juncture!
I hope that fissure gets so wide that it has to be surgically removed.
I prefer the democrats stay unified in their “American Blood for Votes” strategy leading up to November 2020.
On a positive note though, Nancy is busy unpacking her bags of cash tonight, meant for the EU, Hammas, Al Qaeda and ISIS.
You know those bags of hers would have set off every security alarm in the airport. That’s why she can’t fly commercial.
“What saddens me is that I don’t think we really need a wall if the government does it’s job.”
I don’t think that there is any substitute for a wall at this juncture!
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If the govt did its job drying up all welfare to illegals and fine employers
big $$$ for hiring them, they would stop coming. As long as incentives
exist they will come for the freebies.
That is SO right .
IF there was instant deportation.
IF local police could stop and see papers.
IF there were no bennies for illegals including school, medical, jobs, drivers license.
IF there were no anchor babies.
I would consider no wall for 1 year to see how it goes.
If the govt did its job drying up all welfare to illegals and fine employers
big $$$ for hiring them, they would stop coming. As long as incentives
exist they will come for the freebies.
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The same Government that has the common sense to tell people not to feed the bears or wild animals in Yellowstone Park because they will become dependent on ‘US’ and do nothing for themselves....
If the government shut down is so terrible, damaging and threatening, why was Pelosi leaving the country?
“If the govt did its job drying up all welfare to illegals and fine employers
big $$$ for hiring them, they would stop coming.”
Not all of them, because some have other reasons for coming, like the one’s from the ME, Russia and China! And they are the ones we need to keep out the most. Besides, the wall will significantly reduce our expenditures for BP personnel, and keep the ones we have safer. Someone climbing a wall is a target, not a threat.
yes. we need a wall. It’s not just about ICE. Consider this article from 1990 - federales placing orders with cartels for American vehicles - 20,000 cars annually stolen - back then. Then you add in the boat thefts, the motor homes, the trucks, the motorcycles, the moving vans, horse and livestock trailers, and wonder why our auto insurance rates are so high? Add in property crimes and burglaries and crimes against businesses, which raise our home and commercial insurance rates, crimes against persons and minors,the drugs killing our youth, all increasing medical costs.
These drains on our economy go on every day in border states, with the perps vanishing within hours across the border, where they assume a new name for their next criminal jaunt. And they run to a country who, according to recent testimony, had 3 presidents that worked for the cartels to the detriment of the US. It is ‘immoral’ to continue to subject border states to criminal activities. Time to lock it down.
“I am alarmed at just how much money the cartels have to spread around in Washington”
How do the cartels secretly give money to a politician? How much money is flowing?
The wall is just immigration policy set in stone.
The democrats would be all for a wall if it was being
built to keep rich tax payers IN.
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