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Democrats dismiss Trump Shutdown Offer (Before he even makes his speech [4pm ET] )
Axios ^ | 1-19-19 | Caitlin Owens, Jonathan Swan

Posted on 01/19/2019 11:56:56 AM PST by springwater13

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To: springwater13

Democrats need to learn a hard lesson from President Trump.
He needs to remind the American people that the Demodrats have never wanted a wall they have always voted for billions of dollars for it when they had the Presidency and they knew that no real wall would be built. They have been lying to us for years.


61 posted on 01/19/2019 12:37:28 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: shelterguy

Did you forget that the Donald, could have taken care of this issue easily within the 100 days of his office? But he didn’t instead he fiddled and fiddled around until he’s now forced to take whatever scraps the Commie scum Democrats throws at him.


62 posted on 01/19/2019 12:38:42 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Live Free or Die)
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To: springwater13

Did you ever hear the phrase “break the child’s will”? When parents used to discipline, and a kid was just too stubborn to deal with... the idea was to break his will. Sometimes it took more than once.. sometimes the first time worked.

This is the dem party led by the task master, pelosi. Children, wanting their way like it has always been. I can’t imagine how she got all those men to bow to her.. but maybe men have been ‘taught’ to obey.

Somehow, Trump needs to break the dem’s will... from the habit of thinking they get their way on everything! They have not gotten the message yet... and they have no idea the sentiment of the people our here.

But go ahead and declare an emergency.. those caravans are not going to stop and they are absolutely taking over our borders.. our country! We have laws and if we can’t control this, our country and constitution is gone! We will be nothing great and nothing special..

I voted for Trump for many reasons, but the main one was that he was/is a fighter! I wanted to win and stop capitulating to the left/dems!

The media lives 24 hours a day 7 days a week, with Pres Trump in their heads.. in their sleep... that’s all they talk about... Trump! And the media is LONG GONE!!


63 posted on 01/19/2019 12:41:00 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: springwater13

just keep the gov closed until hell freezes over


64 posted on 01/19/2019 12:41:09 PM PST by Dont tread and Live (waso)
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To: JonPreston

I think that’s what he’s doing also. Setting them up so that a National Emergency is the only way he can go.

And they still look like idiots saying that a wall is ineffective. Then why do they have walls around their mansions? And every American recognizes this, even the ones too indoctrinated to admit it out loud.


65 posted on 01/19/2019 12:41:25 PM PST by CottonBall (We are not represented, we are ruled.)
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To: springwater13

What do you want to bet that Trump makes a n offer that gives the Demonrat stuff they want and they do an Arafat...


66 posted on 01/19/2019 12:42:41 PM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: Truth29

well thats what I pray for


67 posted on 01/19/2019 12:42:43 PM PST by Dont tread and Live (waso)
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To: springwater13
...wasteful, ineffective... expensive and ineffective... promised Mexico would pay for...

Democrats sure know how to stick to a script.

-PJ

68 posted on 01/19/2019 12:45:56 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

The core issue is Reagan was betrayed.


69 posted on 01/19/2019 12:46:51 PM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This is twice now that the Dems abandoned the “Dreamers” - maybe the Dreamers will catch on this time & realize the Dems don’t care an iota about them except as a political pawn, if that.

For Trump to offer the Dems a deal on DACA seems sort of ‘ho hum” to me for an announcement this afternoon, although I know he wants the optics of being willing to negotiate when the Dems won’t even come to the table. On the subject of the border, Trump was majorly pissed with Mexico earlier today for doing nothing to stop the latest caravan(s). The announcement was billed as having to do with the ‘humanitarian crisis’ at the border. I’m thinking Trump may have something else up his sleeve to announce. The DACA is to perhaps fake out the media/Dems. Trump still has a couple of Aces to play - we’ll see if today he puts any of them on the table.

With Nancy leaving DC at every opportunity & turning up her nose at anything “Trump”, maybe he should up the pain level. I’d suggest, considering Mexico’s lack of cooperation, close the Southern border to all but returning American citizens & do something about all the cash flowing south to Mexico. Maybe for a little extra excitement, announce that for future consideration as the Pelosi/Schumer shutdown continues, as of 9:00 Monday morning, he wants a ‘reduction in force’ plan on his desk from the agencies that have any furloughed nonessential employees.


70 posted on 01/19/2019 12:48:46 PM PST by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: springwater13

He can extend DACA somewhat, but don’t make them voters. But, obviously, that won’t be enough for the Democrats.

My initial fear was that he would offer an Amnesty to the DACA bunch, with basically nothing in return (the Wall alone is next to useless - I would want to deal with Anchor Babies, E-Verify, Criminal Aliens, etc. also).

If he did DACA Amnesty just for the wall, I would not be wall, I would not be happy.

As it is, it looks like the Dems are going to reject it anyway...which is good, and saves Rush the trouble of having to make another phone call.


71 posted on 01/19/2019 12:51:19 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: JonPreston

Exactly.
Who is the ‘Deal Maker’ and who is the ‘Blood Thirsty Power Grabbers’?
Optics, my FRiend, optics.


72 posted on 01/19/2019 12:52:02 PM PST by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in a dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: Hojczyk

I hope Durbin refusing his possible offer statement before he delivers it pisses Trump off enough that he declares a state of emergency at the border with the 5,000 now approaching it. EFFECTIVE NOW. Will have to ignore the liberal hand picked crocked judges that will try to block it. Maybe the Supremes need to vote on it but they should be present to vote.


73 posted on 01/19/2019 12:53:40 PM PST by DOC44
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

The core issue is this President Donald J Trump should have stick to his campaign promise and forced Mexico’s hand in paying for the wall and invasion like he would.
You all want to bash and trash Reagan at every turn for his compromise’s while giving Trump a pass for his.


74 posted on 01/19/2019 12:54:16 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Live Free or Die)
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To: springwater13

Unfortunately, FR has a sizable division of pearl clutchers, swift to accuse President Trump of “caving” on whatever issue is convenient ...

ONCE AGAIN, their knee-jerk responses demonstrate a profound ignorance of how this man negotiates. After two years of demonstrating his brinkmanship over Democrats, FR’s estrogen-fortified brigade of reactive Trump bashers still rush headlong to knot their panties over the slightest ripple on their ideological purity meters.

These individuals never miss their opportunity to prematurely pounce on Trump’s decisions or methods, no matter how many times they are proven wrong. IMO, either they have not the patience to understand his methods, or simply do not want to understand.


75 posted on 01/19/2019 12:54:50 PM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
Twitterman fiddling around on this issue for two years Obama Style with a two house majority bottom line period.

The RyanFag was the roadblock. DJT, the #BuildaWall president, will do better w Nancy as Speaker.

76 posted on 01/19/2019 12:56:59 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: springwater13

Of Course dems are very confused because it’s not an offer. Hes making an announcement. action is going to be taken.

Anybody who thinks it’s a offer to negotiate, misunderstands the art of negotiating by action.

They’re about to find out in scream bloody murder: “He can’t do that!”

“Ijust did” says Donald Trump.


77 posted on 01/19/2019 12:58:02 PM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Did you forget that the Donald....
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I believe you meant to say President Trump.

And maybe you have been in a coma for a long time because you don’t seem to remember what he has been through. Doyou remember the fight he had to get everyone through the nomination process? Do you remember that he has been in a major fight each day in office?

You say he could have easily done this in his first hundred days. You maybe forgot that the limpdick Ryan was resisting everything he did.

I read the Huffington Post because it is humorous to see the responses from the kids. You sound like one of them when you call him the Donald.


78 posted on 01/19/2019 12:58:43 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: springwater13

“People getting excited about the Trump shutdown DACA for Wall trade need to chill.”

Indeed. Because the Dems will reject ANY compromise out of hand, so it’s being done to show that trump is reasonable and that the Dems are not; furthermore, it shows that the Dems are totally selling out the current bunch of illegal aliens that they profess to care so much about simply to maintain an unlimited supply of new illegal aliens ...


79 posted on 01/19/2019 1:06:30 PM PST by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: springwater13

Cuck and Nancy took the bait. This was so obvious. Now PDJT can claim the high ground, after all he offered to meet them somewhere close to the middle and as he no doubt knew, they said, F*ck no!


80 posted on 01/19/2019 1:13:27 PM PST by technically right
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