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Democrats for Border Security?
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2018 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 01/29/2019 5:26:42 AM PST by Kaslin

The government shutdown is over -- for now -- but the political ramifications are still being sorted out. The media has been chortling that Donald Trump "caved," and he may well have lost this battle with congressional Democrats. Their "victory," such as it is, is to notify American voters that they are so opposed to a wall and a secure border that they were willing to keep the government shut down for four weeks to ensure it doesn't happen.

Trump has thus exposed the Pelosi-Schumer Democrats as being hopelessly soft on illegal immigration. Some Democrats are starting to wonder whether they have dug their own political grave for 2020. This is why in recent days congressional Democrats are screaming from the rafters that they are for border security -- just not the way Trump wants to do it.

The reality is far from this spin. At the start of the shutdown, the Pelosi crowd was saying that "there is no border crisis" and that "a wall is immoral." But actions speak louder than words, and every response to illegal immigration over the past decade proves they don't want it stopped. Democrats have instead openly encouraged illegal immigration.

Let's start with the 2018 midterm campaigns. The rallying cry of many prominent Democrats running for Congress was to "abolish ICE," the federal border patrol agency. This position wasn't way outside the mainstream of Democratic thinking, and it was embraced by the new darling of the party, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the latest Democratic presidential aspirant, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand from New York.

So the party that doesn't want a wall and doesn't want border agents is now trying to convince Americans that they really want border security. Right. And Bill Cosby is a woman's rights advocate.

One of the Democrats' objections to the wall, and it is a legitimate point, is that about half of those in this country illegally simply overstay their visas. A wall won't stop that. To stop visa overstayers requires internal enforcement of the immigration laws. Democrats say they favor those measures.

Where? When? How?

Most Democrats have long been supportive of the policy of "catch and release." This means tens of thousands of illegal immigrants are basically released back on to the streets after apprehension. That's some deterrence.

Democrats and left-wing supporters have continually trashed border agents for mistreatment of migrants. There are certainly abuses and those should never be tolerated. But it's a tough and dangerous job working on the border, and why is it that the left always refuses to take the side of the people enforcing the laws?

Meanwhile, Democrats routinely resist all attempts to deny illegal immigrants welfare benefits, including food stamps, unemployment benefits, the earned income tax credit, public housing and Medicaid. They also almost universally support subsidized college tuition to illegal immigrants.

The U.S. Government Accountability Office has just reported that in 2017, there were about $37 billion in improper or fraudulent Medicaid payments. Many of these payments went to noncitizen households. The Census Bureau reports that more than half of noncitizen households are collecting welfare benefits. Yet the left opposes doing anything about these abuses when welfare reform is debated.

Let us just say that all of these policies send a welcoming message to aspiring immigrants looking to enter America illegally.

Perhaps worst of all are the sanctuary city policies in 200 cities across America, including Los Angeles, San Francisco, Baltimore, Chicago, Portland, Seattle and New York. This announces, like a blaring billboard to illegal immigrants, "If you can get your way to L.A. or Chicago, you've got a permanent home here. The local police aren't allowed to turn you over to the feds or cooperate with ICE agents."

So the party that doesn't want a wall and doesn't want border agents is now trying to convince Americans that they really want border security. Right. And Bill Cosby is a woman's rights advocate.

One of the Democrats' objections to the wall, and it is a legitimate point, is that about half of those in this country illegally simply overstay their visas. A wall won't stop that. To stop visa overstayers requires internal enforcement of the immigration laws. Democrats say they favor those measures.

Where? When? How?

Most Democrats have long been supportive of the policy of "catch and release." This means tens of thousands of illegal immigrants are basically released back on to the streets after apprehension. That's some deterrence.

Democrats and left-wing supporters have continually trashed border agents for mistreatment of migrants. There are certainly abuses and those should never be tolerated. But it's a tough and dangerous job working on the border, and why is it that the left always refuses to take the side of the people enforcing the laws?

Meanwhile, Democrats routinely resist all attempts to deny illegal immigrants welfare benefits, including food stamps, unemployment benefits, the earned income tax credit, public housing and Medicaid. They also almost universally support subsidized college tuition to illegal immigrants.

The U.S. Government Accountability Office has just reported that in 2017, there were about $37 billion in improper or fraudulent Medicaid payments. Many of these payments went to noncitizen households. The Census Bureau reports that more than half of noncitizen households are collecting welfare benefits. Yet the left opposes doing anything about these abuses when welfare reform is debated.

Let us just say that all of these policies send a welcoming message to aspiring immigrants looking to enter America illegally.

Perhaps worst of all are the sanctuary city policies in 200 cities across America, including Los Angeles, San Francisco, Baltimore, Chicago, Portland, Seattle and New York. This announces, like a blaring billboard to illegal immigrants, "If you can get your way to L.A. or Chicago, you've got a permanent home here. The local police aren't allowed to turn you over to the feds or cooperate with ICE agents."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bordersecurity

1 posted on 01/29/2019 5:26:42 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Open Borders became part of the Democrat party platform quite recently. Back when labor unions were the most important constituency of the Democrats, the unions themselves were opposed to illegal immigrants and many Democrat politicians had to follow suit. As recently as Clinton and Obama's first term, border patrol and INS were mostly allowed to do their jobs without much interference from above. Not anymore.

Perhaps worst of all are the sanctuary city policies in 200 cities across America, including Los Angeles, San Francisco, Baltimore, Chicago, Portland, Seattle and New York. This announces, like a blaring billboard to illegal immigrants, "If you can get your way to L.A. or Chicago, you've got a permanent home here. The local police aren't allowed to turn you over to the feds or cooperate with ICE agents."

The other loud and clear invitation for illegal immigrants is any kind of amnesty deal or "path to citizenship." Giving the DACA invaders legal resident status is basically like standing at the border with a bullhorn saying "come one, come all, you'll eventually be forgiven and legalized if you just wait long enough - even Republicans will play along!"

2 posted on 01/29/2019 5:42:29 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Kaslin

The amazing thing is that half the voters in this country go along with whatever these traitors say.


3 posted on 01/29/2019 5:46:18 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: ek_hornbeck
Open Borders became part of the Democrat party platform quite recently.

I humbly disagree. I believe this was part of their strategy when they hoodwinked Reagan on the amnesty deal thirty years ago.


4 posted on 01/29/2019 5:49:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

At the end of the day, as my British friends like to say, this will not end well for the entire Democrat Party, that is in the active process of destroying itself politically, with each passing day.

Forget all the polls my friends, you should have learned by now they are only as effective as the toilet paper in your bathrooms. you get rid of it after it has served its purpose.

The overwhelming majority of the American people stand with POTUS, Trump, an even a majority of furloughed Federal Government Workers who commented on the C-Span telephone line. that they supported the Trump position on funding the South Border Wall.

I do not have much faith that the Democrats will negotiate in good faith with the Trump folks, for the simple evident reason, that we are now in the fifth day since the Fed government was re-opened by POTUS, Trump, yet not one meeting has yet been held to address the southern border security, etc. Shameful on the part of the failed Schumer/Pelosi Democrat Party.

POTUS, Trump will take action on his own...rightfully so!!!


5 posted on 01/29/2019 5:49:05 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
The amazing thing is that half the voters in this country go along with whatever these traitors say.

47% would cast their vote for an incarcerated felon, a three-legged German Shepherd or a statue of Mickey Mantle if it meant preserving the flow of FREE SH*T.

Mitt Romney had that much right.


6 posted on 01/29/2019 5:50:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ek_hornbeck

Moore hits the nail on the head and this country is committing suicide by overwhelming this country with illegals. If you want to turn America into CA where people are pooping in the streets, keep voting Democrat. We are nearing the tipping point of no return. These illegals vote and devour American resources.


7 posted on 01/29/2019 5:57:44 AM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: Buckeye McFrog
There was always an open borders faction among Democrats who counted on immigrant votes, but Democrats' advocacy of open borders was held back by labor unions, who until recently were opposed to illegal immigration and mass immigration generally because immigrants undercut wages. Now that labor unions are less influential (and those that remain are on board with the mass immigration program), open borders are more or less the official Democrat party platform.

Let's not forget, however, that there is and always has been an open border faction in the GOP as well. Many business interests with deep pockets short-sightedly advocate mass immigration as a source of cheap labor. This faction probably had almost as much to do with swaying Reagan to give illegals amnesty as Democrats at the time.

8 posted on 01/29/2019 5:58:17 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Buckeye McFrog
47% would cast their vote for an incarcerated felon, a three-legged German Shepherd or a statue of Mickey Mantle if it meant preserving the flow of FREE SH*T. Mitt Romney had that much right

Mitt Romney said a lot of good things while on the campaign trail, such as his remarks about not having to deport illegals en masse because they'll self-deport if we deny them social services and benefits (as the law requires). It's a shame that he never had the slightest intention of acting on or implementing any of it.

9 posted on 01/29/2019 6:00:31 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Wm F Buckley Republican
If you want to turn America into CA

Haven't you noticed that all of CA's worst social trends become the norm throughout the US about 5-10 years later. As far as being transformed into a political and cultural extension of Mexico, that's more or less true of much of the southwest already.

10 posted on 01/29/2019 6:02:06 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Kaslin
One of the Democrats' objections to the wall, and it is a legitimate point, is that about half of those in this country illegally simply overstay their visas. A wall won't stop that. To stop visa overstayers requires internal enforcement of the immigration laws.

The WALL will free up ICE and border agents to go after visa overstayers,

11 posted on 01/29/2019 6:15:36 AM PST by spokeshave (recovering Spokeshave from another computer.)
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To: Kaslin

No, they are not for border security. They will posture and pretend to be for it.

Their solutions will be things that can be rolled back easily.

Never ever trust a RAT. They will lie all the time.


12 posted on 01/29/2019 6:16:48 AM PST by dforest (Just shut up Obama. Maybe everyone should just shut up!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

“....this will not end well for the entire Democrat Party....”

Unfortunately, the entire country, Demodummies included (other than Dem politicians of course) will/my suffer the consequences. The entire demodummie idea is to gain enough Demodummie voters to keep them in control of the government FOREVER. The American people need to wake up. The country is about to be lost to socialism forever unless the republicans (or some other group of conservatives) can block the Demodummies plan. Unfortunately, Trump is fighting this battle alone.


13 posted on 01/29/2019 6:24:29 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
...the...Democrat Party...is in the active process of destroying itself politically, with each passing day.

While the rest of your post is spot on, this seems wishful thinking.

The evidence on record is that we have increasingly failed to nurture and maintain a sense of national pride.

Rather we have done just the opposite. For quick examples, see Obama's global apology tours and now the likes of Kamala Harris who appear poised to once more make us feel guilty for being America.

In Obama's case his audience wasn't necessarily the foreign leaders and international press, it was America's youngest voters and those about to become such.

14 posted on 01/29/2019 6:27:11 AM PST by frog in a pot (Result of many state bailouts? Taxpayers elsewhere in America get to finance the Left's growth.)
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To: Kaslin

When Pelosi and her minions met with Mexican elected officials who are known recipients of drug cartel bribes, why wasn’t Pelosi debriefed by US Intelligence agents to find out if bribes were offered to her? What curious timing since when did a 180-degree flop and became rabidly anti-wall soon after the meeting.


15 posted on 01/29/2019 7:00:36 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: frog in a pot

Here is the way I see it. The Democrat Party is losing voters everyday and lots of them...Jews, Catholics, Christians...but....they are really losing African-Americans & Hispanics by the thousands, even Fed Workers who have turned on them because of the shutdown to a small degree. I was stunned by their anti-Democrat Party remarks on C-Span.

IMHO...The Democrat Party has to turn to only its elites and the incoming illegal immigrants. Less those folks and the Democrat Party dies politically. We shall see how this works out as time passes.


16 posted on 01/29/2019 7:44:15 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

At the end of the day, as my British friends like to say, this will not end well for the entire Democrat Party, that is in the active process of destroying itself politically, with each passing day.

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This is yet to be seen. As of the current moment, it’s ending very well for them as statistics show that illegals can register to vote and in many cases do vote. Which party do you think they vote almost exclusively for?


17 posted on 01/29/2019 8:43:51 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


18 posted on 01/29/2019 8:45:46 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Wish I could disagree with you.


19 posted on 01/29/2019 9:46:33 AM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Let's hope your sense of the matter is more correct.

Perhaps a simple and helpful analysis would be to compare the size of the votes captured by Obama and those recently for Hillary with those in the next two presidential elections. History suggests "it" will happen with accelerating speed as it approaches the tipping point.

20 posted on 01/29/2019 10:32:05 AM PST by frog in a pot (Result of many state bailouts? Taxpayers elsewhere in America get to finance the Left's growth.)
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