Editorial: These gun ownership bills make good safety sense (NM)

The Albuquerque Journal ^ | January 30th, 2019 | Albuquerque Journal Editorial Board

[CedarDave]

Similar bills in the NM House and Senate would make it a crime to sell a firearm without conducting a background check .... It would help keep guns out of the hands of felons, people with documented mental health problems, illegal immigrants and others who couldn’t purchase a gun from a licensed gun shop.

SB 8 is being carried by Majority Leader Peter Wirth and Judiciary Committee chairman Richard Martinez, both Democrats.

Now, if you go into a reputable gun shop and purchase a firearm, a background check is required. If you agree to purchase one in a parking lot in response to an ad on the internet, it’s no questions asked. How can anyone argue this makes sense?

Other proposed legislation follows a similar pattern:

• House Bill 40 would close the so-called gun show loophole by requiring any vendor to conduct a background check before transferring a weapon.

• House Bill 83 would allow family members or police officers to seek a court order to temporarily take guns away from someone they believe is an immediate threat. Of course, a judge would have to agree.

• House Bill 87 would prohibit someone convicted of battery on a household member and certain other crimes from having a firearm. The same would apply to people subject to a restraining order in some circumstances. ...

Republicans in the Legislature have so far opposed these bills. They would be better served saving their rhetoric for proposals that truly over reach.

It’s worth noting Chicago has some of the nation’s strictest gun laws, yet hundreds of gun murders a year. ...

So, no, these proposals in Santa Fe won’t stop gun violence, but they do try to address what we know are problems while acknowledging the constitutional right to bear arms.

[CedarDave]

Heavily excerpted. Two words: Slippery slope...

[CedarDave]

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[rktman]

Again, sympathies. We kind of have it in NV but unenforceable in its current iteration. Our new d- gov is gonna work on fixing it.

[moovova]

“Now, if you go into a reputable gun shop and purchase a firearm, a background check is required.”

Not completely true. But then, what do the anti-gunners care about truth.

[NorthMountain]

Four words: "Shall NOT be Infringed"

Aside from being unconstitutional, these are bad ideas that give excessive power to the State.

[2nd Amendment]

Gun-grabbing sobs. I’m sure all your Democrat criminal friends can’t wait to comply

[Da Coyote]

Worked so well in Chicago.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

I’ll add 4

due process
reasonable suspicion

[DuncanWaring]

If you don’t trust a felon with a gun, do you trust him with a knife? Hammer? Baseball bat? Car? Can of gasoline?

[Bonemaker]

“...both Democrats....”

Same goddamned script in every state run by filthy democrats.

[BenLurkin]

How can one argue that it makes sense to require a “background check”?

[libertylover]

It would help keep guns out of the hands of felons, people with documented mental health problems, illegal immigrants and others …

I think they're smokin' Loco Weed out there in New Mexico

Speaking of New Mexico, I was wondering. Since many liberals want to force Northern Ireland back into the Irish Republic against the will of those who live there, so would they also want to force New Mexico back into Mexico? Just wondering.

[Politically Correct]

• House Bill 83 would allow family members or police officers to seek a court order to temporarily take guns away from someone they believe is an immediate threat. Of course, a judge would have to agree.

Your liberal neighbor doesn't like you.
And the judge only hears one side of the story.
If he declines to take the guns and the gun owner goes nuts and uses them....the judge's career is toast.
The judge is going to error on the side of his/her interests....not the civil rights of the gun owner. (Yeah, they're supposed to be better than that....)
The gun owner is now in the position of proving a negative....that he/she is no threat.
The former gun owner is now at risk for attack from his liberal neighbor who hates him and wants to see him dead.

Moral of the story....counter-retaliate with a red flag report on your neighbor/relative.
Unfortunately, the police can't tell you who submitted the red flag. You're going to have to guess. (Bet you know anyway.)
You're on double secret probation!

[Cold Heart]

Slippery slope indeed. Oregon already has these laws plus.

As it stands now, I cannot legally take a non-family member hunting and loan them a gun. I cannot loan a gun to my neighbor when her husband is away and there are prowlers about.

They now have proposed more draconian laws

[Tammy8]

On one of the articles posted about the different gun bills being proposed in NM on social media people were commenting all for them. People were debating which ones would be better and why. I posted none of the proposed gun laws would keep criminals from getting guns. The first response was “What do you mean by that? which tells me why this state is going so fast in the wrong direction.

[Sir_Ed]

I’m an Oregonian and as bad as that law was, it does allow the temporary loaning of a gun to someone else while hunting or at a firing range.

The bills they have proposed are a nightmare, you’re right!

Ed in GP

[Billthedrill]

No private-sale restriction is enforceable unless there is 100% registration. Coming soon...

[Tammy8]

Force us back? Maybe that is the plan. If you follow the border issues you can see many are more than happy to give the land back to Mexico. Not much support to control the border here. So no support for securing the border and now they want to disarm us ASAP.

When the border issues began I had a heated discussion with a family member that has never lived closer to the border than Kansas City and he is against any sort of border fence, wall...a Pelosi bot. When I told him what it is like to live here he said we should just move. I asked him how much of this country was he willing to give away. I didn’t get an answer and he is not talking to me now.

[BookmanTheJanitor]

So, no, these proposals in Santa Fe won’t stop gun violence

Well, that's nice....

[DesertRhino]

And of course, impossible to enforce without registration. That’ll come along next year.