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Researchers say Native American genocide changed the climate; Academics reach for the nonsensical
American Thinker ^ | 02/03/2019 | Rick Moran

Posted on 02/03/2019 10:41:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: CrazyIvan

Also, to follow-up, let’s say the blanket story was true, did the white man have any ideas about virus back then?


61 posted on 02/03/2019 12:13:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Vendome

It says “the Americas” All cultures were “native Americans”.

I do satellite archaeology, and from my estimates they have only accounted for about 30% of the lands that were once actually farmed in Mesoamerica and South America, only about 5% of what was once farmed in Brazil alone. People don’t create farmland for no reason. They only farm it if they truly need it.


62 posted on 02/03/2019 12:14:08 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

So are we now discussing all lands fand people from what are now border states to Ushuaia?


63 posted on 02/03/2019 12:21:34 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Openurmind

Researchers at University College in London have published a paper theorizing that the slaughter of Native Americans by whites in the 15th and 16th centuries


64 posted on 02/03/2019 12:23:11 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Vendome

From the Arctic to Terra Del Fuego are the Americas, the new world.


65 posted on 02/03/2019 12:26:06 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

I see what you are saying now.

Like most Freepers, I only read the first sentence, which does say a bunch of blue eyed, blonde hair devils killed “Native Americans”.

They expand their stupid premise a few paragraphs later to include:
“European settlers killed 56 million indigenous people over about 100 years in South, Central and North America”

Still, a boo chit article with made up facts that are real....


66 posted on 02/03/2019 12:32:38 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, smallpox was a European disease. I first heard about all the “embellishment” of the story from a friend who is a retired Ranger Colonel and a walking encyclopedia of military history. He pointed out that contagion and epidemiology were virtually unknown at the time.


67 posted on 02/03/2019 12:33:16 PM PST by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When you consider that Europeans of the day believed that all disease was caused by a mixture of swamp gases and witchcraft, not a bad score.


68 posted on 02/03/2019 12:40:33 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: Candor7

Just imagine the vast amount of methane from 500 million bovine flatulence. We saved the environment!


69 posted on 02/03/2019 12:48:27 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: Vendome

I was just pointing out that the population numbers are close. They may very well have began to kill each other off just shorty prior to the arrival of Europeans for some reason. They may have already been in a state of drought and famine and dying off.

I am not personally supporting that the Europeans did it all. But you and I both know that even of it was by accident they sure did eliminate most of them left. The Spanish killed off a lot of European people too, other Spanards. Historically it was their known MO.


70 posted on 02/03/2019 12:48:49 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: jocon307

Let’s make not mistake as to their indictment here.

They are saying “White Man” as in Blue Eyed, Blonde Hair White Devils.

They are not discussing the Whitey’s from Spain and Portugal...with brown eyes and dark hair...

And them people are “Straight Up!” whiter than you and I...


71 posted on 02/03/2019 12:58:45 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Openurmind

Well, yeah but, now that I see the premise of the article to be more fully revealed as a fraud, after the first sentence, I can agree with your population count of 37 million across The Americas.

They do start with saying “Native Americans” when they should have simply said “Indigenous Peoples” from South, Central and North America.

Not sure why they put them in that order either....


72 posted on 02/03/2019 1:02:05 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: SeekAndFind
"the white man brought the European disease to the Americas"

The diseases that came with the Europeans existed throughout Europe and Asia. It was only a matter of time before people from the Old World reached the Americas and Hell was coming with them.

73 posted on 02/03/2019 1:04:54 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is not a new idea.

For certain land use changed a lot in both North and South America in that time, along with a collapse of native numbers, almost entirely due to devastating plagues. The new populations of whites and mestizos (in South America), or recovering Indians, did not reoccupy an equivalent agricultural region until the late 18th-early 19th century, more or less.

The older idea was that cleared land became overgrown, and turned into forest, changing albedo, evaporation and other factors. It’s a bit difficult to make a case for CO2 given everything else that was going on.


74 posted on 02/03/2019 1:11:29 PM PST by buwaya
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To: SeekAndFind
the slaughter of Native Americans by whites in the 15th and 16th centuries led to climate change often referred to as "The Little Ice Age."

I'm sorry, for years, I was told by the Climate People that there has been only man-made global warming, and there never was a Little Ice Age. I can't accept any new theories, because they told me the first one is "settled science."

Now, I don't know what "settled science" would be, other than a contradiction in terms. But I'm a faithful Global Warming crackhead, I tell you, and I'm not going to jilt the poor girl for an ice age, not even a little one.

75 posted on 02/03/2019 1:14:25 PM PST by SamuraiScot (am)
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To: Vendome

I agree... They worded it confusing. But by the large population claim and the fact that Europeans went to Mesoamerica and South America first I figured they had to also be including all of the New world Americas and the Caribbean.


76 posted on 02/03/2019 1:14:47 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: fireman15

These are the scientists who are not only too lazy to read the scientific literature they’re even too lazy to read the “popular” science literature!


77 posted on 02/03/2019 1:14:47 PM PST by Reily
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To: Openurmind

Oh....Well, the Caribbean had to account for at least half those people..../S


78 posted on 02/03/2019 1:16:08 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Clutch Martin
“The carnage was legendary and sharks still follow the same route.”

Uh-huh. Gosh, they must be getting hungry by now.

79 posted on 02/03/2019 1:17:43 PM PST by SamuraiScot (am)
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To: Openurmind

The Spanish certainly didn’t kill very many of anyone.
Or not more than any other Europeans did.

A great deal of remnant animus against Spain and its people in the English speaking world is due to the lingering effects of the great religious wars of the 16th-18th centuries, and anti-Catholic attitudes in the British establishment that persist to this day.

Wars never really end, their ghosts persist and haunt generations.

This all is remnant war-propaganda from centuries ago. There is even a term for it in Spanish historiography -“la leyenda negra” - the black legend.


80 posted on 02/03/2019 1:21:34 PM PST by buwaya
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