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If Elon Musk didn't do adequate cold-weather testing of his cherished, hyped, ego-trip project...

...then what else hasn't he adequately tested? What problems lurk under the covers in the future for Tesla owners?

1 posted on 02/03/2019 12:02:55 PM PST by Yossarian
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Boo-freak’n-hoo!


30 posted on 02/03/2019 12:29:38 PM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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wake up and smell the coffee....electric vehicles are a hoax...always have been


32 posted on 02/03/2019 12:31:02 PM PST by Dont tread and Live (waso)
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Tesla Model S owners around where I live don’t drive them in cold weather, as they have two or three other vehicles better-suited to cold. I’m guessing many Model 3 owners are sacrificing to afford their $50k price tags and don’t have other vehicles as backup.


33 posted on 02/03/2019 12:31:23 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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Ettore Bugatti received a complaint from a customer about how hard his car was to start in cold weather.

"If you can afford one of my cars, you can afford a heated garage."

35 posted on 02/03/2019 12:32:31 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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An automobile operates in a very tough environment. 120F down to -20F. A tough environment for electronics. Most modern cars have tons of electronics. Electric cars probably have a lot more.

You can't beat the simple internal combustion engine for reliability at extreme temperatures. All that is needed is a spark and gasoline. Of course, there is the issue of water freezing. So an air-cooled engine is probably more reliable. The viscosity of oil is an issue.

36 posted on 02/03/2019 12:32:34 PM PST by dhs12345
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Get a team of horses to pull it around.

And the Libtards want to do away with petroleum!


38 posted on 02/03/2019 12:38:16 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (A.D. 636 Jerusalem Falls To Islam, A.D. 642 Christian Egypt Is Lost To Islam)
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And if one goes over to a Tesla owners forum you get a different picture. Only one complaint about people leaving charging adapters in the snow.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/


42 posted on 02/03/2019 12:40:59 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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Yes but all those smugs!!! How can virtue-signallers live without them???


45 posted on 02/03/2019 12:43:54 PM PST by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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Ping.


48 posted on 02/03/2019 12:48:39 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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During my years living in Alaska I learned that there are no machines that work well when the temps get around -25*F or colder. The first winter I spent in Fairbanks it was -55*F for several days. A vehicle had to be running 24/7 because if it stopped it wouldn’t start again unless covered with a heavy insulated tarp and running a Reddi-heater under the engine for 2-3 hours. My friend’s brand new Suburban would develop flat spots in the tires that would take about a mile to round out again. It takes a lot of work and expense to live in a climate like that! I doubt if there are many electric vehicles in Alaska but there are leftard fools everywhere so its possible.


50 posted on 02/03/2019 12:48:48 PM PST by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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Here is something for the Tesla owners to think about in the winter months:
- You start off with a full charge in the morning heading to work, but snow is expected for later in the day.
- After work your battery drain is way more than expected, but you have to get home.
- Then, there is a major traffic jam on the snow covered roads and you sit there watching your “remaining charge” meter drop below 10% and you still have a long way to go.

Your SCREWED.

Next thing you know, your on the side of the road in a snow storm with no power, freezing and waiting for AAA.


54 posted on 02/03/2019 12:53:09 PM PST by CapnJack
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“My biggest concern is the cold weather drained my battery 20 to 25 miles overnight”

Lol..... just sitting outside or perhaps in the garage overnight in very cold weather killed off some of his driving range. Does this really happen to Tesla, Prius etc type batteries?


57 posted on 02/03/2019 12:57:53 PM PST by dennisw
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I have no animus toward electric cars. I have a Mercury Mariner Hybrid. I really enjoy the car. When others are sitting in traffic burning gas by the tens of thousands of gallons collectively around me, I’m sitting there with my gasoline engine off moving ahead by electric.

Is this going to save the planet? I am not convinced the planet needs to be saved. It’s doing just fine > iMO.

Is it going to reduce energy usage? I’m not convinced of that either. If everyone went electric, it would have to put a massive load on the grid. It costs money to develop and provide electricity too. We’d be swapping out fossil fuels for electric, but then some electric companies burn oil to generate electricity.

I enjoy my vehicle for what it is, and claim no bragging rights other than the traffic dynamic I mentioned earlier. In that one situation, electric makes a lot of sense. If you have hundreds of thousands of vehicls on the road in drive time gridlock, there’s a lot of gas to be saved by having an electric or a hybrid.

I’ve had it for 13 years now. It runs as good as the day I bought it.

It’s a little SUV and on the road I’ve gotten over 34 mpg. Around town I get 26 plus if I’m tuned in to driving carefully for gas mileage purposes.

I don’t think folks should be bothered by electric cars. They’ve come a long way, and I suspect they are going to do a lot better in coming years.

I love tech, and I enjoy watching the electric cars improve. It’s a cool technology.


60 posted on 02/03/2019 1:00:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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I could care less about Tesla Model 3 problems. What chaps my ass, is that it takes four writers from Bloomberg, to write the story, and between them, they don’t have brains enough to call winter, winter. Is it any wonder there is so much fake news. Another case of monkey see, monkey do.


62 posted on 02/03/2019 1:03:33 PM PST by N9841A
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Actual ways to deal with these problems.

https://insideevs.com/video-tesla-model-3-winter-fixes-frozen/


66 posted on 02/03/2019 1:05:46 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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Designed and built in the temperate climate of the San Francisco Bay Area. My guess they never thought about designing it for Nanook of the North. Or maybe even Lake Tahoe.

How pathetic...door handles freezing up and people having to put dental tape on their $100,000 toys.


68 posted on 02/03/2019 1:06:15 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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This is my argument against ‘lectric vehicles.

I sold cars for two years and in the training you must take, so you are to speak about features of a vehicle, there are all kinds of caveats as to “predictions” for mileage.

Under ultimate conditions the vehicle can drive a certain distance before requiring a recharge.

If you turn on the radio it uses a certain amount of the fuel.

The rather large display screen uses fuel.

GPS uses a decent amount of fuel. Try running your cell phone without a charger and see how fast the GPS drains the battery.

Turn on the lights = fuel

Turn on high beams = fuel

Turn on heater = fuel

Turn on Air Conditioner = fuel.

Have dual temperature running in cabin = fuel

Go up hills, rush hour traffic, high speeds = fuel.

Before anyone says “Well, gas guzzler’s use fuel too” here is the difference: everything on on an electric vehicle requires one fuel source to run: The Battery or rather 2,400 batteries in series.

Modern Gas Guzzlers require fuel to propel the vehicle down the road and run a an alternator, which recharges the battery in your vehicle.

The alternator, pretty much powers everything else in your vehicle while the engine is running.

So, when you jump into a Ford Fusion and the gas gauge says you can drive 515 miles, you can pretty much drive 515 miles before needing to refuel.

In my case that is never true, since I drive my cars like I just stole them or I am at Indianapolis...

When you jump into a ‘lectric if it says you can drive 300 miles, it ain’t true in winter....at all


77 posted on 02/03/2019 1:15:09 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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They are getting exactly what they deserve. Stupid ignorant people who are too stupid to understand that electric heaters draw more power than the proposition motors. I have commented on this myself multiple times, and I don’t even own one. It is just simple science. After a few years then the batteries need to be replaced as well. Besides the fact that those cost as much to do as a good used car... There are major environmental issues there as well.

Having heat in the winter in a gas powered vehicle is easy because the heat is a by product that can simply be put to use. In fact a gas powered vehicle becomes much more efficient in the winter because of this.

And all of the nonsense about electric cars being environmentally better for the environment is nonsense as well. The reasons are obvious to anyone who wants to think it through. Batteries are far from 100 percent efficient as well. Especially when they get older. For several reasons.

Unless someone invents a power source a thousand times better than current battery technology then electric cars make no sense at all except in some very limited applications like where they are being operated indoors.

I don’t feel sorry for these fools one little bit.


86 posted on 02/03/2019 1:23:37 PM PST by Revel
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The cold weather effects on the lithium battery are well known. Tesla owners didn’t read the fine print.


100 posted on 02/03/2019 1:42:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Being woke means you can be nasty and hateful and use and racist slurs but feel morally superior.)
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Who needs to drive in freezing cold temperatures anyway?

Hunker down and shelter in place.
Or telecommute.
Or rely upon public transportation.
Or walk/bike.


101 posted on 02/03/2019 1:43:34 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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