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Looking at deportation from south of the border, I saw our own flawed attitudes about migration
The Seattle Times ^ | February 25, 2019 | By Tyrone Beason

Posted on 02/27/2019 12:55:13 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

MEXICO CITY - For the thousands of Mexicans who’ve been deported from the United States and who’ve chosen to rebuild their lives in this massive capital city, America represents “el otro lado,” Spanish for “the other side.”

On our side of the U.S./Mexico border, from Florida to Washington state, these repatriated Mexicans left behind jobs, loved ones and community ties.

On our side, they experienced the chaos and coldness of America’s immigration and deportation system, one that has shown little interest in broken families and the loss of economic viability, or the relative unsafety and cultural hostility toward migrants of all kinds that deported people face after returning to their native country.

Earlier this month, two of my Times colleagues and I traveled here, to the other side of America’s border crisis, to learn about life after deportation.

We have a responsibility to be careful about who we let into this country, to be sure. But we also have to find a way to more humanely manage the detention, departure and reintegration of those we send away - to see them as human beings even when they have violated the integrity of our borders.

We can act as if the fate of undocumented migrants isn’t our problem, that they shouldn’t have come here under those circumstances in the first place.

But if we deal with the original sin of entering the United States illegally in such a clinical way, we will be committing the equal sin of heartlessness when humanity is due.

Justice is never truly blind.

Because of that, as we think about deportation, we should view this tough journey with our eyes wide open.

Editor’s note: We are not allowing comments on this column because comments on Tyrone Beason’s columns often violate our Terms of Service.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; deportation; illegalaliens; invasion
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Tyrone Beason offers his perspective on the social-justice issues that define our times, reporting on the people, events and movements shaping our civic discourse.

1 posted on 02/27/2019 12:55:13 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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Editor’s note: We are not allowing comments on this column because comments on Tyrone Beason’s columns often violate our Terms of Service.

What the Editor means is that Tyrone is a member of a privileged class whose opinions are not subject to criticism. Sort of like an Islam Imam. Got it, crackers?!

2 posted on 02/27/2019 12:58:40 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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>> On our side of the U.S./Mexico border, from Florida to Washington state, these repatriated Mexicans left behind jobs, loved ones and community ties.

Mexicans didn’t have jobs, or family, or community ties back HOME. Then why the hell do they wire billions of dollars back HOME every year?


3 posted on 02/27/2019 12:58:58 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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“Editor’s note: We are not allowing comments on this column because comments on Tyrone Beason’s columns often violate our Terms of Service.”

Obviously for good reason, and so ends my interest in this ‘story’.


4 posted on 02/27/2019 12:59:43 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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>>Editor’s note: We are not allowing comments on this column because comments on Tyrone Beason’s columns often violate our Terms of Service.

Dissent is not tolerated.


5 posted on 02/27/2019 12:59:44 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
shown little interest in broken families and the loss of economic viability, or the relative unsafety and cultural hostility toward migrants of all kinds that deported people face after returning to their native country

Checking to see if I give a damn...

Nope - not yet...

I'll check back with you.

6 posted on 02/27/2019 1:00:34 PM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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WHY ARE WE ALLOWING CITIZENS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES
ENTER US ILLEGALLY GRANT THEM RIGHTS
THAT THEIR COUNTRY DENY US HAVING
WHEN WE ENTER THEIRS LEGALLY ???
It’s time we consider illegal entry by any person who is a non Mexican citizen illegally entering the United States through the US Mexican border a defacto Mexican citizen with limited Mexican constitutional rights subject to their laws while transiting. As well as any Mexican citizen doing so. Subject to reciprocal citizen treatment a citizen of the United States receives in Mexico through the Mexican constitution on citizenship .

Besides being unable to vote one must also be a citizen to own land and Mexico is very restrictive about granting citizenship. Because of that a US citizen besides not being able to vote,and cannot have title in their name to any land property in Mexico. And until that is changed the US and the affected state should consider making that reciprocal.prohibiting citizens of Mexico or countries with similar restrictions from doing both voting and land ownership..


7 posted on 02/27/2019 1:00:40 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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I have a great idea for Tyrone - he needs to go down to Mexico and live there as an “undocumented immigrant” then write about that experience instead of bitching about this.


8 posted on 02/27/2019 1:01:17 PM PST by Baladas
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I wonder if he is one of those Leftists who hold up Norway as a proud example of “socialism”.

You have to earn at least $47,000 a year to immigrate there. They don’t have time for people who only come to suck at the teat of the welfare state that they did not “build”.


9 posted on 02/27/2019 1:01:43 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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He’d switch to writing about tacos and travel. That article about equality would never get written.


10 posted on 02/27/2019 1:03:15 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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You know, all these people could work on immigrating LEGALLY. They just choose not to do so.


11 posted on 02/27/2019 1:07:42 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“Editor’s note: We are not allowing comments on this column because comments on Tyrone Beason’s columns often violate our Terms of Service.”

I have noticed that when conservative commentators start changing the minds of liberal commentators, the publication shuts down comment sections.

IMDb, gone.
Hollywood Reporter, gone.
Rolling Stone, gone last week.

When you can't counter logic, just drop the conversation.

12 posted on 02/27/2019 1:07:42 PM PST by eddie willers
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But if we deal with the original sin of entering the United States illegally in such a clinical way, we will be committing the equal sin of heartlessness when humanity is due.


Original sin?

This SJW like all the others is a mental case and should properly be committed.


13 posted on 02/27/2019 1:09:21 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But we also have to find a way to more humanely manage the detention, departure and reintegration of those we send away

No, we don't. Their "reintegration" into THEIR HOME COUNTRY is their problem, and that of their home country. Not ours. Their only relationship to OUR country is that THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

14 posted on 02/27/2019 1:10:54 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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or the relative unsafety and cultural hostility toward migrants of all kinds that deported people face after returning to their native country

Sounds like a problem with the Mexican people, they need to be more tolerant towards their fellow Mexicans.

15 posted on 02/27/2019 1:12:05 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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The United States of America: so awful to illegal immigrants they keep trying to get in.

Obamacare: so awesome you had to be forced to buy it.

16 posted on 02/27/2019 1:13:22 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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they shouldn’t have come here under those circumstances in the first place.

Q.E.D.


17 posted on 02/27/2019 1:14:22 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Dear Mr. Bleeding Heart Tyrone,
Look pal you are just a tool and if a lot of us had our way there would not just be a 30 foot steal wall along the border, but towers with remote controlled GAU-9s set in overlapping fields of fire. At night Mr AC-130 Ghostrider and his little buddies Mr A-10 would parol the skies ... just so you now how really, really broken up we are to hear these sob stories ...

I might even go so far as to say: why the H don’t you just stay down there - you certainly are less then useless here ...


18 posted on 02/27/2019 1:15:26 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Idiot. Left their loved ones behind? They are free to go with him. THEY choose to separate.


19 posted on 02/27/2019 1:18:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Boo-freakin-hoo. I could care less about their lives in Mexico. They should never have disrespected our border, our laws our citizens and our generosity. Cry my a Rio Grande.
20 posted on 02/27/2019 1:23:16 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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