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To: Wuli

Intractable Pain Disease Patients. They want more studies, and use as medical since Pain Meds have been Forced Tapered or cut off. The Snake Oil crap doesn’t work that we are being offered.

And yes I fall in this category. But since I take Valium I’m not allowed more than post surgery low dose NORCO’s. 3 days for 2 or more weeks of severe pain. Facing Oral surgery with NO pain meds? Not going to happen. Already been through the 11 lower teeth removal with bone spur surgery on 3 days of 5 mg NORCO. Pain lasted 14 days till it got to Tylenol point for both procedures. Lyrica and Neurotin are A-Fib ER trips. Either Docs start standing up for Patients or they will find we Cancel a lot of procedures. 60 Minutes which is barely believable had an excellent piece on Intractable Pain only the idiots kept referring to it as Chronic Pain. World of difference in the 2 words.

Richard ‘Red’ Lawhern, PhD has a FB page full of articles as he is a Pain Patient Advocate. Roger Chriss, PhD with EDS, also has many well researched articles. Him you have to google.


33 posted on 03/01/2019 7:31:18 AM PST by GailA (PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, GET OVER IT SNOWFLAKES.)
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To: GailA

“Lyrica and Neurotin are A-Fib ER trips.”

I was unaware of this, and I have been taking gabapentin for almost ten years.

I have been on a self-induced (my choice) program for two years now to ween myself off of it. I am about half way off and may be rid of it in another year. The side effects of lowering the dosage has been, each time, similar to side effects when the dosage was too high in the beginning (3,600mg a day split into three doses).

But the A-Fib risk you mentioned I was not aware of, and it was not why I have been cutting it back. For me, on an initial accidental greatly reduced dosage one day, I noticed I had less “brain fog” in spite of feeling some greater pain. I reduced the dosage intentionally for one week and realized I had steadily less brain fog.

Now I will continue to ween myself off the gaba, for the additionally reason I learned from you as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29956217


35 posted on 03/01/2019 8:07:56 AM PST by Wuli
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