Posted on 03/02/2019 1:07:07 PM PST by tkocur
A dual citizen of Saudi Arabia and the United States had been imprisoned in the Ritz Carlton in Riyadh for about a week when he heard a knock on his door.
Guards dragged Walid Fitaihi, a Harvard-trained physician, to another room, according to a friend who took down the prisoner’s detailed account of his treatment. Dr. Fitaihi told the friend he was slapped, blindfolded, stripped to his underwear and bound to a chair. He was shocked with electricity in what appears to have been a single session of torture that lasted about an hour.
His tormentors whipped his back so severely that he could not sleep on it for days, his friend said, speaking on condition of anonymity to avoid reprisals. The doctor had described the physical abuse, in general terms, to his relatives as well, a person close to them said.
Detained in November 2017 in what was billed as a crackdown on corruption, Dr. Fitaihi, 54, remains imprisoned without any public charges or trial. About 200 prominent Saudis were detained with him, and he is one of dozens who remain in prison.
Friends and families of others detained have also described episodes of torture. At least 17 detainees were hospitalized soon after the crackdown for injuries sustained while in custody, according to a doctor at the hospital and an American official monitoring the crackdown.
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If true...who cares?
Probably a “Jihadi-American” like the new ones in congress.
I guessed the source would be the Washington Post. I guessed wrong because of Jamal Khashoggi.
Then I read the first sentence:
A dual citizen of Saudi Arabia and the United States
Now a citizen of the US has become a DUAL citizen of Saudi Arabia and the US.
The NYT certainly had enough room to add DUAL citizenship to their headline but didn't.
I wonder why.
It reminds of when the Washington Post implied Jamal Khashoggi was a US citizen when in fact he was just living in the US.
I care a lot. The Saudis are allies of the US. Allies do not do this to each other’s citizens. I hope the US Department of State is on the case.
What’s he doing in Saudi ?
If he broke their laws whilst On their country they are entitled to deal with him how they see fit. Likewise, we should be allowed to shoot anyone here from foreign countries who breaks our laws
Does Saudi Arabia want “reciprocity” as Kisinger practiced it?
I don’t think dual citizenship is a good idea. Dual citizens enjoy more Privileges’s in their country of birth and then expect us to bail them out when things go bad.
Well, I have a bit of a problem with the whole dual citizen thing but if it was a third country torturing the guy I’d be up in arms. However if its the other country he swore allegiance to, well, that’s between him and them. Because it’s hard to yell at them “he’s our citizen! How dare you!” when they can say “no, he’s OUR citizen, buzz off”. Just like I’d tell Saudi Arabia to jump in a lake if he were sitting on death row for murder in our country and they tried to make a stink about it.
The Saudi Barbarians could crucify & behead Americans (like they do others) & it wouldn’t matter because they buy our weapons and are friends with Israel. That’s all that matters.
The Middle East really became a problem for us after the Iranian Revolution when the Shah was deposed and Khomeini came to power. This affected the other countries and the problems just escalated.
And the big reason the US allowed the Shah to be deposed was because Jimmy Carter was all tsk-tsk-tsk about the Shah’s human right record. It seems he was torturing crazy jihadist Muslims. How awful.
Torture in the Middle East? My official position is: I don’t care.
Dual citizenship is a bad idea and needs to end.
Second, Islamic hellholes aren't good allies.
The Doctor in question was a Saudi citizen and whatever political intrigue he is part should stay strictly among Saudis.
I hope.the state department is busy doing a job which should have been done during the Nixon administration. Outlining to Congress why dual citizenship needs to end.
By Jennifer Mueller. The Saudi Arabian government oversees and protects Muslims making the pilgrimage to Mecca. Saudi Arabia has a monarchial system of government with the king as head of state, leader of the national government and commander-in-chief of the nation's military. Islamic law is the Saudi Arabia's primary legal authority.
I didn’t get to read the article before the paywall went up, but perchance was the Islamic Society of Boston mentioned in the article? Older news articles with that guys name in it seem to focus on his family’s links to terrorist financing, not so much on his Harvard medical pedigree.
However, this sounds like the NYT is trying to create another Jamal Khashoggi narrative; and that Trump is somehow responsible.
Why hide the fact he had DUAL citizenship in the headline?
If we didn’t hand out amnesty, green-cards and passports to bums from all over the world like they come from inside a box of Cracker-Jacks, then we wouldn’t be thrust into these needless situations.
For crying out loud the **DHS** under Obama was headed up by one of these.
RIDICULOUS, it’s so out of hand.
Show me another country where their homeland security is handled by a FOREIGNER.
What Congress should be working on is a list of things that the USSC can not rule on.
One of which should be citizenship. Then make a law that says citizenship in the United States is exclusive.
“I don’t think dual citizenship is a good idea. Dual citizens enjoy more Privileges’s in their country of birth and then expect us to bail them out when things go bad.”
Yeh, pisses me off. Americans who enter countries such as Iran, N. Korea, Saudi Arabia, etc, then do something stupid and expect American government to send a carrier group, 101st Airborne, etc, to rescue their lame asses. I say let twist in the wind...
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