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Air Force Halts Tanker Deliveries After Finding Planes Are Full of Trash
Popular Mechanics ^ | 03/04/2019 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 03/05/2019 11:26:04 AM PST by Rusty0604

The Seattle Times reported late last week the Air Force had discovered unwanted tools, bits of debris, and other garbage in various locations of KC-46A tankers. According to the Times, Air Force pilots at Boeing for training refused to fly the aircraft as a result, citing safety concerns. “This is a big deal," a Boeing memo was quoted as saying.

The presence of tools and debris in aircraft is a serious safety hazard. Objects can roll around in flight, shorting out electrical equipment and damaging other equipment. Tools were found in two aircraft delivered to the USAF and in eight more still at Boeing. The Seattle newspaper says the problem is the fault of mechanics working on the plane but also quality control inspectors that monitor work and ensure nothing unauthorized is left inside an aircraft section before it is closed up. The Times notes this comes as Boeing is preparing to cut up to 1,000 quality control inspector positions.

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Maybe the union doesn't like the fact that Boeing is planning on laying off 1,000 quality inspector?
1 posted on 03/05/2019 11:26:04 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I’m reminded of Michael Crichton’s book “Airframe” which laid heavily into the unions for threats and sabotage.


2 posted on 03/05/2019 11:33:55 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Rusty0604

Nah, never. Besides, they’d just go work for Southwest, right?


3 posted on 03/05/2019 11:34:04 AM PST by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Rusty0604

Sounds like sabotage.


4 posted on 03/05/2019 11:34:12 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Rusty0604

Cutting QC never works out. My company did that in the mid-2000’s, and paid a hefty price.


5 posted on 03/05/2019 11:34:43 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: Rusty0604

The Air Force is absolutely anal about tools and their potential for foreign object damage. I did some work in an Air Force facility... two stories underground... miles from the flightline... and I still had to follow all the tool rules... sign out... sign in... daily inventory...


6 posted on 03/05/2019 11:43:58 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Maybe the union doesn't like the fact that Boeing is planning on laying off 1,000 quality inspector?

Could be... perhaps those quality inspectors could work for a fair wage instead of demanding more than the market can bear.
7 posted on 03/05/2019 11:45:03 AM PST by TexasGunLover
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To: TexasGunLover

Not possible.


8 posted on 03/05/2019 11:48:38 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Don’t forget that the tanker contract was originally won by Northrop, but Boeing ratcheted up the political pressure and, in a mockery to procurement, got the award vacated because the Northrop airbus frame was so much better than the requirents that it wasn’t a fair competition. Surprising nobody, the tanker contract went to them and it failed to meet delivery by two effing years.


9 posted on 03/05/2019 11:51:40 AM PST by jz638
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I didn’t k ow that about Northrop.


10 posted on 03/05/2019 11:54:04 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Army aviation takes FOD seriously too. FOD cans in every hangar work area, and FOD inside an aircraft found during preflight can mean something fell off. Nothing left unsecured prior to takeoff. When in doubt, get an inspector.


11 posted on 03/05/2019 11:55:03 AM PST by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
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To: SJSAMPLE

Brian Bosworth, lead mechanic, Boeing Corporation.


12 posted on 03/05/2019 11:55:32 AM PST by ameribbean expat (Socialism is like a nude beach - - sounds great til you actually get there. -- David Burge.)
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Some of this pretty much sounds deliberate but it is nothing new.

When we did acceptance of C-141s from depot level maintenance and modification we had similar problems.

It was pretty difficult to place a high level of confidence on the quality of the worker when we found empty liquor bottles and apparently used condoms inside the extended fuselage plug?!?!

It was classified as FOD (F'in Odd).

13 posted on 03/05/2019 11:59:50 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Tijeras_Slim; null and void

[I did some work in an Air Force facility... two stories underground... miles from the flightline]

A-HA!! So YOU know where the Roswell UFO really is!!!

(j/k)


14 posted on 03/05/2019 12:01:51 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ameribbean expat

Niiiice.
I had to use Wiki to figure that one out.
I’m a Detroit native, and we used to say, “Never buy a car made on a Friday or a Monday.”


15 posted on 03/05/2019 12:02:08 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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Tools were found in two aircraft delivered to the USAF and in eight more still at Boeing.

If they're not enforcing 100% tool accountability, they're negligent. If they are ... this is deliberate sabotage.

16 posted on 03/05/2019 12:05:50 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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The Times notes this comes as Boeing is preparing to cut up to 1,000 quality control inspector positions...

As I recall, the last time this was an issue was...during labor unrest. That and a work stoppage got Boeing's unions a composite manufacturing plant and an assembly plant in North Charleston, South Carolina.

Local scuttlebutt says that IF Boeing builds the new Mid Market Plane (the 797) it's not a given it will be built in Everett...and if it is, it could well be at the cost of all 787 assembly moving to Charleston.

They can't seem to help themselves.

17 posted on 03/05/2019 12:12:58 PM PST by gogeo (Liberal politics and mental instability; coincidence, correlation, or causation?)
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To: Rusty0604

I’ve heard that it rained parts and tools when the shuttle transitioned from horizontal-to-vertical.


18 posted on 03/05/2019 12:23:00 PM PST by sasquatch
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To: pfflier

Liquor bottles and condoms? Wow.


19 posted on 03/05/2019 12:23:08 PM PST by Rusty0604
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Its good the USAF hasn’t allowed quality control inspectors to be handled by civilian contractors. The military abrogated that responsibility with respect to food to the FDA and the USDA and the quality has really sucked since then.


20 posted on 03/05/2019 12:23:53 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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