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Sen. Rand Paul says government should not force people to receive vaccinations
The Washington Post ^ | Felicia Sonmez

Posted on 03/05/2019 12:33:05 PM PST by RandFan

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To: RandFan

Vaccinating newborns for Hep B is just plain dumb.


121 posted on 03/05/2019 3:33:46 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: RandFan

And the government shouldn’t force American citizens to put up with uncontrolled border crossings by illegal aliens, and the crimes, diseases, and expense that accompany those crossings.


122 posted on 03/05/2019 3:37:24 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Yaelle

This was an outstanding post.

If the CDC decreed that forced anal somehow boosted one’s immune system, I would not put it past some here to say that one didn’t have a right to reject it.

The statist instinct is alive and well here. I wonder how many work for government agencies or big pharma?


123 posted on 03/05/2019 3:38:18 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

There’s a difference between seeking personal liberty and giving into to license.


124 posted on 03/05/2019 3:44:47 PM PST by righttackle44 (Takes scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: RandFan; JustAmy

When I was a kid, there was just the DPT and smallpox vaccines. In 1954, the elementary schools had a voluntary vaccine for polio. This was an experimental vaccine and parents had to send in a permission slip. I was inoculated.

Many baby boomers who were inoculated starting with the following year, received contaminated vaccine with RV40 Virus.

Prior to this, cancer rate was 1 in 8000. Now it is 1 in 3. “The Institute of Medicine recently concluded that “the biological evidence is of moderate strength that SV40 exposure could lead to cancer in humans under natural conditions.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC452549/

CDC finally admitted that the polio vaccine was contaminated by SV40 virus given by injection in 1955-1963:

http://web.archive.org/web/20130522091608/http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/updates/archive/polio_and_cancer_factsheet.htm

Thimerisol - currently used in MMR vaccines is a toxin:

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/thimerosal#section=GHS-Classification

PHARMA companies can not be sued. HHS was supposed to be performing testing to insure safety - According to findings in recent lawsuit by RFKjr, HHS has not been meeting it’s obligations.

The 1986 Act set up a vaccine court. Two out of 5 of the cases brought have been decided in favor of the patients/plaintiffs for damages due to vaccines.

If I had young children today, I would not inoculate them as fast as the schedule, and I would not let them use huge combos of several vaccines, other than the DTaP. If the state law doesn’t require a vaccination for school, I would research it before deciding to do it.

If the Vaccine industry could be sued, there would be an incentive to make sure the vaccines were safe. Other pharmaseuticals have to go through years of testing before being authorized. Vaccines do not have those same stringent standards.

There is a lot more that a person can learn which raises a lot of red flags. So I personally don’t believe it is a cut and dried issue. Caution is not a bad thing. Researching and deciding what risks to take for your child - that’s a parental right.

Limits to those rights for life threatening illnesses is one thing, for child hood diseases that are not life threatening is another.
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Here’s a recent post/plea for prayers here on FR by just Amy:

“First a little history .... The last week of November, Richie received several vaccines which included the flu vaccine.

On December 2nd, he was hospitalized with paralysis of his arms and legs. He was put on a respirator and the outlook was bleak. I posted a note on FB asking for prayers from family and friends.”

Link to the thread telling Richie’s story and status. Read it and weep. Then pray for Richie’s recovery and strength for his family.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3717837/posts


125 posted on 03/05/2019 3:56:46 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: RandFan

All those illegals coming in with third world diseases and he’s against the BP giving them vaccines.


126 posted on 03/05/2019 4:16:14 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.)
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To: SecAmndmt

Diseases spread, fat don’t.


127 posted on 03/05/2019 4:18:55 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

These diseases aren’t all deadly on a wide scale. And they confer lifelong immunity.

Obesity will sink the national budget.

No obese person has any right to say a peep to me about health.


128 posted on 03/05/2019 4:31:31 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Remember Spanish Flu?


129 posted on 03/05/2019 4:38:48 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: Truthoverpower

First you talk about a vaccine as a poison but then bring up the wonders of wiping out polio. That makes zero sense.

Then you bring up the industry is pure evil.

I really don’t see that. I see an industry working with public health arms of government that has wiped out small pox, polio and let’s not forget about TB. And on and on it goes.

Good grief, I think they even figured out our have likely figured out how to get rid of ebola. Do your really want that one? Seriously?

I can understand not getting the vaccines for medical reasons such as allergies (e.g., egg based) but some of those people including me paid a dear price for that as I ended up with the measles and hospitalized.

I strongly urge everyone to read up on the science and the history and if you can, get vaccinated.

I think some of these people (including likely you) who refused vaccinations have been conned by others who have no clue about how this science works. I also wonder if certain countries are using social media and other avenues to falsely suggest vaccines are bad and thus, cause serious unrest in the Western world.

I have all the confidence in the world, you and others will flame me just like when I had to deal with a bunch of wackjob JWs over the years and their unique blood doctrine. But, hopefully others that are reading this post and other posts will get educated and make sure they get vaccinated.


130 posted on 03/05/2019 5:14:04 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: Guenevere

So 15 years isn’t too long?


131 posted on 03/05/2019 5:25:06 PM PST by Okeydoker
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To: Okeydoker

You were rude and name calling.


132 posted on 03/05/2019 5:52:15 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

The reality is.....we don’t have a laissez faire capitalism..we have a capitalist welfare state...and so, yes I am Stu k as a taxpayer for all the risks of your “freedom”...If we lived by darwin,s laws of survival of the fittest I wouldn’t have to pay for someone,s stupidity.

Put the risk/ consequences back in our society and we won’t have to “ mandate” anything

You freedom lovers forget how our society ..govt..economics...is set up now. And just get all shook up if I say we should have bike helmets.


133 posted on 03/05/2019 6:38:20 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ( POST)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

No, and I doubt you do either, unless you are 120 years old.

Flu vaccines are an absolute joke. Dr David Brownstein did a study and said that the real efficacy was on the order of 1%. And in the multi-dose vials, one gets thimerosal. IV vitamin C will knock out just about any flu in 2-3 days. Need a high dose, maybe 100g/day, but it works. Ozone and UV knocks out Ebola in a couple days as well. I had ozone therapy and it knocked out a systemic 9 month infection in about 2 hours, with no side effects. Both treatments are cheap and unpatentable, so of course, they can’t be used here in the US.


134 posted on 03/05/2019 6:40:46 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

See my post 112...

Get in touch with reality of our economic system.

If we went back to survival of the fittest no ins premiums would go up for obese people..they’d be gone.


135 posted on 03/05/2019 6:41:50 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ( POST)
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To: Mariner

Our society is no longer survival of the fittest.we will be paying for all these no vaccine idiots chidren..

When risks have real life consequences I’ll support the libertarians..right now my taxes are paying for their “freedom”


136 posted on 03/05/2019 6:46:16 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ( POST)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“right now my taxes are paying for their “freedom”

Why not extend the same logic to speeding tickets, diet, alcohol and innumerable drugs, both prescribed and illegal?

Should we outlaw Cola?

Compel 40 minutes of aerobic exercise to 65% of MHR 5 times per week?

You’re paying a HELLUVA lot more for those who are sedentary and drinking sugary drinks that you’ll ever pay for the unvaccinated.

Why not go after that instead?


137 posted on 03/05/2019 6:57:30 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: righttackle44
If you're thanking him for real, in real time, then be certain you keep your children and grandchildren away from mine.

Why? Are your children and grandchildren not vaccinated?

138 posted on 03/05/2019 7:04:36 PM PST by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Mariner

Yes.....maybe if we had govt control all this...people would finally have enough and bring true freedom with risk and consequences back.


139 posted on 03/05/2019 7:08:22 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ( POST)
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To: Mariner

Yes.....maybe if we had govt control all this...people would finally have enough and bring true freedom with risk and consequences back.


140 posted on 03/05/2019 7:08:51 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ( POST)
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