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Dems want $50 million for biased research to attack gun ownership
Fox News ^ | March 8, 2019 | John R Lott Jr

Posted on 03/08/2019 5:01:53 AM PST by richardb72

Democrats in the U.S. House are likely to approve spending $50 million in taxpayer funds for public health research on gun violence. While that may sound like a good idea at first glance, it really wouldn’t do anything to reduce gun violence in our country.

I testified Thursday before the House Appropriations Committee’s health subcommittee to inject facts into the discussion of the Democratic bill.

It should go without saying that everyone opposes gun violence. But it’s important to take effective measures to deal with this problem and not simply take actions that sound appealing but won’t really save lives.

The idea behind the $50 million in research funding is to have medical professionals apply tools they developed to study cancer, heart disease and other diseases and use them to study crime, accidental death and suicide. But to state the obvious, gun violence and diseases are two very different things.

The National Rifle Association – regularly demonized in the media and by many Democrats – has been blamed for preventing academics from doing research on firearms. So supporters of the bill that would spend $50 million to research gun violence as a public health issue say their bill is needed to stop the NRA from blocking vital research that will save lives.

But there’s a big problem with the argument: it’s not true. . . .

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; cdc; cprc; guncontrol; mediabias; publichealth
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1 posted on 03/08/2019 5:01:53 AM PST by richardb72
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Basically, if these research groups did do health research into gun violence, and documented mental behavior case study....what it’d drive is citizens to push for states to formally put nutcases (as we did prior to the 1960s) into state mental facilities. I think if you just asked a straight question to the general public....more than sixty percent would readily agree to putting disturbed people away who are deemed a threat.

I doubt if that’s the intention of the anti-gun crowd, but such data on the table would drive public opinion on this.


2 posted on 03/08/2019 5:07:01 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: richardb72

50 million to hire consultants to Justify what they want to hear.
MSM will treat their findings as the gospel


3 posted on 03/08/2019 5:11:14 AM PST by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: pepsionice

The end result justifies the means for them.

Like eating a good steak and eating polluted lettuce. coming to the conclusion that eating steak makes you crap your pants.


4 posted on 03/08/2019 5:11:36 AM PST by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: richardb72

In other words, they want $50M. The research, they’ll make up anyway.


5 posted on 03/08/2019 5:13:29 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: richardb72

Liberal ‘academia’ all have a needle in their arm called ‘The US Government’.

All the while, detesting taxpaying American Conservatives with an intensity that could incinerate hell.


6 posted on 03/08/2019 5:13:56 AM PST by SMARTY (Hatred is a feeling which leads to the extinction of values. Ortega y Gasset)
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To: richardb72

I’d do it for the low, low price of $25 million. Why pay more?

Executive summary:

Guns bad.
Orange man bad.
White man bad.
Christians bad.


7 posted on 03/08/2019 5:15:04 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Trump: "America will never be a socialist country!")
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To: pepsionice

Thing is though... This gun/health study has been done before several times with the same results, and the results were surprisingly honest. The results were not what they wanted to hear at all so now they are going to try and pay for new more favorable results.


8 posted on 03/08/2019 5:15:31 AM PST by Openurmind
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"While that may sound like a good idea at first glance.."

Maybe his prospective is looking out of his own keister..

9 posted on 03/08/2019 5:19:34 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: richardb72

This will be one of these studies which will confirm preconceived conclusions, like climate change, second hand smoke and the “glass ceiling “. No effort will be made to be fair or objective, and whoever accepts money to do the study will understand exactly what is expected of them.


10 posted on 03/08/2019 5:22:14 AM PST by Spok
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To: richardb72

They want to take guns from non-violent people and leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


11 posted on 03/08/2019 5:37:44 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: richardb72

It’s their next shot (pun intended) in a propaganda campaign against the 2A.


12 posted on 03/08/2019 5:41:28 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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“Progressives.” They‘re still at it.

“Putting science in its rightful place,” as EX resident bathhouse barry soetero obeyme once told us. And remember, as with Trofim Lysenko, science, in service to the state, will DO what the state TELLS it to do. Or else.

We are dealing with autocrats, control freaks, authoritarians here, people. From Nanny Pelosi’s dictate of ten years ago “we have to vote for the bill before we can see what’s in it” to Al Occasional Cortex’s “I’m the boss” of just a few weeks ago.

THIS is how these progressive/democrats/liberals/socialists/communists/tyrants position themselve, are showing themselves who they truly are.
And Americans keep electing them; or don’t, we’ll never fully know the extent of illegal alien voting and overt voter fraud, ballot box stuffing (anyone else recall that cache of prefilled Hillary Clinton ballots found in the warehouse in Ohio in 2016? Tens of thousands of them?)

But this, this is how we got the proverbial, and wrong, “global warming scientist concensus”.

No concensus, just hordes of very fresh PhDs clamoring for public funds (ahem, TAX dollars) who would do and say ANYthing to keep their grants flowing. Publish or perish? Publish what the STATE wants you to publish, or perish.

Ask Lysenko how it worked out for him.

As to John Lott, he’s honest, came around to a very pro-firearm position when, coming from an ANTI-gun position, he did open-ended research, came to conclusions the Clinton administration refused to accept (they refused to accept their OWN Justice Dept research showing millions of defensive uses of firearms every year and hid the files for a long time), and when he published his book “More Guns, Less Crime,” the credible death threats from the progressives came so regularly he became a gun owner and routine concealed carrier.

Can’t understand for the life of me why he lives/works in effing anti-human rights Maryland, but there you go


13 posted on 03/08/2019 5:48:41 AM PST by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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Just wait until they adjust for deaths by ethnicity and gender.....they won’t like what they find.


14 posted on 03/08/2019 5:51:16 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: richardb72

Applying the same reasoning, will they now allocate 50M to research the outcomes of college graduates to determine how much benefit they get from their degrees? The higher-ed industry has stifled research into that for years.


15 posted on 03/08/2019 6:04:19 AM PST by Ford4000
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To tackle gun violence you need to tackle behavioral issues, not firearm sales. Someone intent on violence will find a way, legal or not.

But everybody here at FR already knows this..


16 posted on 03/08/2019 6:08:41 AM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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17 posted on 03/08/2019 6:18:37 AM PST by 2harddrive (Go to www.CodeIsFreeSpeech.com for 10 FREE 3D-printer gun blueprints!)
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To: All

Democrats typical tactics, half truths and lies.


18 posted on 03/08/2019 6:31:28 AM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Fresh Wind

Wow, you’re good!


19 posted on 03/08/2019 6:31:35 AM PST by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: richardb72

I’ll save you 50 million.

Black folks kill each other a lot. All over the world. That is America’s gun violence. Study over.


20 posted on 03/08/2019 6:40:22 AM PST by The Toll
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