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To: Enterprise

[I remember that 70’s episode. Battle hardened Vietnamese troops fought Chinese troops and massacred them. China claimed it taught the Vietnamese a lesson. What a hoot!]


Unfortunately, that’s not actually what happened. The Chinese exterminated a Vietnamese division equipped with the latest Soviet gear, and massacred 100K civilians. If the Soviets hadn’t stood ready to attack China if it went beyond a border incursion, it’s possible that China might have overrun all of Vietnam.
https://www.historynet.com/war-of-the-dragons-the-sino-vietnamese-war-1979.htm
https://www.quora.com/If-guerrilla-warfare-is-so-hard-to-beat-why-didnt-more-countries-militaries-revert-to-guerilla-tactics-when-they-were-on-the-verge-of-defeat/answer/Yifeng-Huang-8


8 posted on 03/08/2019 11:31:48 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Thank you for the follow up!


9 posted on 03/08/2019 11:43:32 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Zhang Fei
Good post:

https://www.quora.com/If-guerrilla-warfare-is-so-hard-to-beat-why-didnt-more-countries-militaries-revert-to-guerilla-tactics-when-they-were-on-the-verge-of-defeat/answer/Yifeng-Huang-8

" Guerilla warfare can be easily defeated if the attackers are resolute.

Genghis Khan, probably the greatest conquerer ever, never had a problem with guerilla warfare, even though the lands he conquered included Afghanistan. Why? Because his army simply slaughter all civilians, including their babies, who dare to fight against them.

In the Vietnam war, the Americans struggled against the Vietcongs. When China fought Vietnam, China simply romped through North Vietnam (north of Hanoi), transport removable factories/infrastructure back to China while destroying those that they cannot bring back. One crack Vietnamese division that was rushed back from Cambodia wisely decided to settle into prepared defensive positions near Hanoi instead of reinforcing the surrounded troops north of Hanoi. Why didn't China has problem with Vietcong guerilla fighters?

When I first visited China in the 1990s, a retired veteran bitterly told me that his Major was killed by a ~6 year old Vietnamese kid holding a secret pistol when he was giving out food to the kid. Apparently, this is not an isolated incident. Very soon, they enacted Genghis Khan’s strategy. North Vietnamese villagers encountered were simply labeled as “civilian militia”, treated as combatants and showed no mercy. PLA never encounter anymore guerilla problems because there were no civilians left to provide the guerilla with information, shelter and food!

In the 1980s, there is no internet and no international reporter who has access to report on this. Chinese body counts, which included “civilian militia combatants”, concluded that enemy casualties were in excess of 10 times PLA losses."


Which, IMHO, makes our 2A even more important.
10 posted on 03/08/2019 12:07:53 PM PST by farming pharmer
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