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To: fwdude
Which is to say that Phillips can keep refusing to customize cakes that, as he put it, “celebrate events or express messages that conflict with my religious beliefs.”

Sounds like a win to me.

3 posted on 03/15/2019 11:47:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim, we don't need NSA to crack this code!

Which is to say that Phillips can keep refusing to customize cakes that, as he put it, “celebrate events or express messages that conflict with my religious beliefs.”

Sounds like a win to me.

4 posted on 03/15/2019 11:49:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (After JussieÂ’s fake hate crime, hate crime fakers arenÂ’t taken seriously for even 1 minute now!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sounds like a win to me.

Exactly. The only "whimpering" is from the anti-Christian crowd.

5 posted on 03/15/2019 11:55:15 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s not a true win, as long as the Commission can bring lawsuits against others on similar grounds, forcing our side to spend money to defend, while they have unlimited taxpayer money to attack with.

A true win would involve the abolition of the Commission, and holding the commissioners personally liable for frivolous lawsuits.


14 posted on 03/15/2019 12:29:45 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sounds like a win to me.

Both yes and no.

It is a win in that they now have to get off his back.

It now leaves people like me in the position to have to "prove" that our declining a commission is because of "sincerely held religious beliefs". The correct response should have been, "he has the right to decline any commission he wishes for any or no reason."

Let's say a family wants him to bake a cake celebrating that their three year old daughter won a beauty pageant. Now this is probably not something against his "sincerely held religious beliefs" but he might find kiddy beauty pageants as distasteful as I do.

Does he have the right to decline the commission?

What if the family is black?

I will take the win but as a small business owner who takes commissions it does not go far enough in protecting our right to say, "no".

You can come in my shop and buy anything off the shelf you wish, but I must reserve the right to decline any commission. If I can not, we have a problem.

16 posted on 03/15/2019 12:35:37 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (If you are going to be baked by a witch you might as well go out with a mouth full of gingerbread!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Win?

How much money did he spend on lawyers?

If the victory cost him his business and assets, they beat him


30 posted on 03/15/2019 2:44:56 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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