[Moonman62]

The problem with “liberalism” is that it’s really totalitarianism disguised as liberalism.

[Kaslin]

You said it.

[Telepathic Intruder]

There are two kinds of liberalism: classic and modern.

Classic liberalism is like what the Founding Fathers believed: freedom comes from lack of government interference. Modern liberalism is as you said. The totalitarians usurped and redefined the term to mean that freedom comes from government benefits. It's similar to fascism which says person's rights and privileges depend on their rank in government. Small difference.

[SMARTY]

“Liberalism is nothing more than the ideological disguise of the ‘will-to-power’ of SOME people, who could not themselves, BE less Liberal.”

I think it was Albert Camus

[Carl Vehse]

In the United States, the problem is that “liberalism” is really treason disguised as liberalism.