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"Subject: 319 Square Miles"

In their infinite wisdom, the United States' Founders created the Electoral College to ensure the STATES were fairly represented. Why should one or two densely populated areas speak for the whole of the nation?

There are 3,141 counties in the United States. Trump won 3,084 of them. Clinton won 57.

There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won 46 of them. Clinton won 16.

Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes. In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond) Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles. When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who Inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.

Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT & SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!

And...it's been verified and documented that those aforementioned 319 square miles are where the majority of our nation's problems foment.

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1 posted on 03/23/2019 8:18:16 AM PDT by Twotone
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“Without The Electoral College, The United States Is No Longer A Republic”

Absolutely, it would then be a Democracy and something that was never intended by the framers to ever happen.


2 posted on 03/23/2019 8:23:46 AM PDT by Openurmind
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3 posted on 03/23/2019 8:25:09 AM PDT by red-dawg (Climate change caused the end of the Ice Age. Did man play a part in it?)
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bkmk


6 posted on 03/23/2019 8:26:45 AM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON)
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Art IV, Sect 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government


8 posted on 03/23/2019 8:31:33 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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It’s called “The United States,” not “The United Citizens.”


10 posted on 03/23/2019 8:35:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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There are 3,141 counties in the United States. Trump won 3,084 of them. Clinton won 57. There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won 46 of them. Clinton won 16.

This is why I've been suggesting that instead of eliminating the Electoral College or bypassing it with schemes like the National Popular Vote compact, we incorporate electoral colleges in the several states instead.

My plan is to encourage state legislatures to exercise their Constitutional powers to choose the method of selecting Electors, and move to establishing state electoral colleges based on the lower chamber of their legislatures. Let the party that controls the Assembly select their Electors to the Electoral College.

The people still vote, but locally. The biggest cities in each state will no longer dominate the state. The Assembly itself will act as a statewide electoral college that gives all regions of each state a voice.

This plan also denies the National Popular Vote compact a statewide Presidential vote tally to be used for the compact's purposes. It would be grossly inappropriate to declare that the cumulative Assembly votes constitutes a proxy for the President, as each local vote for Assemblyman is based on local issues, and cannot be interpreted to be the voters' sentiment for the President.

-PJ

11 posted on 03/23/2019 8:37:35 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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Without The Electoral College, The United States Is No Longer A Republic.
That has been the democrats goal for years they will never stop until they get it.
Total Control = Total Power


12 posted on 03/23/2019 8:38:51 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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‘When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who Inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.’

while that is true, it masks the real problem with our parties and the electorate; the Pubs cannot win the popular vote...


15 posted on 03/23/2019 8:43:44 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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It’ll be a one party country.


21 posted on 03/23/2019 9:03:18 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Watch politicians that refer to America as democracy. It is NOT a slip of the tongue.
25 posted on 03/23/2019 9:11:28 AM PDT by SanchoP (Why does DC hate Americans so much ?)
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If you eliminate the electoral college, secessionist movements will sprout up across the whole country. The Democrat party is the party of destruction. They want you to be filthy dirt poor and miserable.


26 posted on 03/23/2019 9:17:07 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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Very good!


27 posted on 03/23/2019 9:17:32 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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The Democrats would be happy to turn us into a Peoples Republic.


30 posted on 03/23/2019 9:23:41 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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Without a secure border we’re no longer a country.

And we have no border. It’s only a matter of time now before the rats take over permanently.


31 posted on 03/23/2019 9:26:27 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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Without the electorial college, this country would never be a free country... it would be run by the “party” who wants to change it so they can be the only party/dictatorship to ever be in control of this once United States.. unless we have a rebellion.... another civil war.

I see the clouds gathering from the left... if we stop it for another 4 years... or for even another 8 years.... you’all know they aren’t going away! the colleges did a number while we let them.... and it’s “free for all” with the lesser paying the way!


33 posted on 03/23/2019 9:30:32 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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bump


37 posted on 03/23/2019 9:43:10 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Our rights are not given to us by man. Our rights come from our Creator." --Donald J. Trump)
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First, as a consequence of the influence of the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political party elites, mainly Democratic and Republican, consider that most states have not been complying with the Constitution’s 12th Amendment procedure for counting electoral votes imo.
Excerpted from the 12th Amendment: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added]; …"

In other words, the states surrendered their power to make “winner take all” laws for electoral votes when they ratified the 12th Amendment imo. So in stark contrast to hypocritical Democratic rhetoric that “all votes count,” patriots need to support PDJT in leading the states to get rid of their unconstitutional “winner take all” laws for electoral votes.

Next, to understand the politically correct, anti-constitutional republic push to eliminate Electoral College, patriots need to consider major constitutional problems with federal domestic policy.

Consider that the Founding States had intended for citizens to work with their local and state representatives, not the feds, for the social spending programs, retirement, medical, et al., that the feds are now unconstitutionally taxing and spending for, social spending programs for a given state ultimately depending on what the legal majority voters of that state want.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that the Founding States had left the care of the people with the states, not the feds.

”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)


Note this insight into 10th Amendment-protected state powers by Justice Brandeis.

H O W E V E R …

Consider that most federal domestic spending is now based on stolen state revenues, such revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes that the post-17th Amendment ratification Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.


In fact, you can bet that if a given federal social spending program is not reasonably related to the US Postal Service (1.8.7) then the program is unconstitutional and be right probably most of the time.

Getting back to the “obsolete” Electoral College, the Electoral College is what is standing in the way of complete usurpation of the powers of the sovereign states by the corrupt federal government.

"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

And once a complete takeover by the feds happens then the Bill of Rights will be gone and citizens will be subjects.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA!


41 posted on 03/23/2019 10:04:22 AM PDT by Amendment10
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For a more accurate display of counties won
Trump in RED.


44 posted on 03/23/2019 10:25:13 AM PDT by deport
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They want to turn The United States of America into The Hunger Games where Capitol City (D.C. in real life) Rules all the Districts (States).

The smaller less Populous Districts (States) end up at the mercy of the bigger Districts (States).

In other words The United States becomes The States United.

Today’s America is eating itself alive.


50 posted on 03/23/2019 10:53:59 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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In the 2016 election, we see the reason for the Electoral College better than ever before.

After the count, Trump had won the popular vote in 49 states. No, he didn't win them all, but the majority of the accumulated votes were his.

One state, California turned all that on it's head. One state should not be able to do that, no matter what size it is.

If Clinton had won, the collective voters in 49 states would have effectively been disenfranchised. That should never occur.

Once again for the hard of learning. If Hillary Clinton and Trump's numbers had been reversed, not a single person would be calling for his nation's electoral laws to be overturned.

Everything would have been perfect, with the Leftists.

Here are some numbers...


Nominee	        Donald Trump	Hillary Clinton		
				
Party	        Republican	Democratic		
Home state	New York	New York		
Running mate	Mike Pence	Tim Kaine		
Electoral vote	304[a]	        227[a]		
States carried	30 + ME-02	20 + DC		
Popular vote	62,984,828	65,853,514	

Percentage	46.10%	        48.20%		94.3%
				
votes in ca	 4,483,810	 8,753,788	

                31.60%	        61.70%		
				
votes in 49 other states (Trump standing)

	        58,501,018	57,099,726	
				
		115,600,744	

                50.61%	        49.39%	        pcts w/o CA	1.21%
				
total votes in the US (Trump standing)

                62,984,828	65,853,514

                128,838,342	
				
	        48.89%	        51.11%	        pct total US	-2.23%

This is why we have an Electoral College.

What voice would small states have, if "mob rule" ruled the day?

We are not a democracy. We are a Republic. (if we can keep it)

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

52 posted on 03/23/2019 11:23:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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