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The Russians are screwing with the GPS system to send bogus navigation data to thousands of ships
Business Insider ^ | 4/14/19 | Jim Edwards

Posted on 04/14/2019 7:21:31 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Retvet

Inertial navigation is limited by integrated sensor biases. The original purpose of GPS was to correct for accumulated sensor bias. Critical military systems have GPS assisted inertial navigation.

Stellar navigation is slow, inaccurate, and only available at twilight in clear weather. It is only accurate to within a couple of miles. Hence the need for lighthouses and channel markers.


21 posted on 04/14/2019 7:49:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Schumer delenda est.)
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To: Nateman
"Perhaps this is why American military ships have collided?"

No. https://www.defensenews.com/breaking-news/2017/11/01/navy-crews-at-fault-in-fatal-collisions-investigations-find/

22 posted on 04/14/2019 7:50:19 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: KC Burke

Business Insider, partner with Yahoo.

Just sayin’.


23 posted on 04/14/2019 7:52:10 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Nateman
Oh well, back to shooting the stars...probably don't even teach it anymore.


24 posted on 04/14/2019 7:53:31 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneow)
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To: bigbob; null and void

Good gosh. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised such a thing is available.


25 posted on 04/14/2019 7:54:29 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Bonemaker

Annapolis dropped stellar navigation as a requirement for graduation. It is still required to join the sailing club. I worked with a guy who had retired from the “Coast Guard”. He was a Coast Guard Academy graduate who was deployed as a navigator on Navy vessels. The Navy needed navigators so badly they won’t let him go, and the Coast Guard wouldn’t promote him because he was merely a navigator. He finished his 20, but with no real prospect of advancement if he stayed in. No good deed goes unpunished.


26 posted on 04/14/2019 7:54:57 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Schumer delenda est.)
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To: A Navy Vet

No. Navy ships collided because of abysmal leadership and training.

But at least women and minorities got to have Navy careers.


27 posted on 04/14/2019 7:57:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Schumer delenda est.)
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To: Bonemaker

It was just put back in the curriculum


28 posted on 04/14/2019 7:58:58 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Sacajaweau

They are spoofing GPS. Not just GLONASS. It only works on the civil frequencies. They have to break the crypto codes to spoof the military signals. But messing with civil signals can cause problems for many users.


29 posted on 04/14/2019 8:00:47 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Afterguard

I really enjoyed celestial navigation when it was part of my job. I still have my Plath sextant and my foot long slide rule.


30 posted on 04/14/2019 8:01:35 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Democrats, the tyranny of the masses)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

President Trump signed a law allowing military to use there related skills/time to join the merchant marine. That is, if he wants to go back to sea.


31 posted on 04/14/2019 8:04:59 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Democrats, the tyranny of the masses)
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To: varyouga
1. It has protections for spoofing...
Right, and we should assume it is absolutely, "take-it-to-the-bank" bulletproof.

2. ...and the Russians do not claim they hacked that side of the system.
Nor would they.

I think it more likely we are in a day-to-day contest and those of us out here on the sidewalk will never know which of those days we win. One hopes we have not sacrificed any of our sailors at the alter of national security.

32 posted on 04/14/2019 8:09:13 AM PDT by frog in a pot (The Socialists have the House, with the Senate it's lights out, they will "Ballsy Ford" an R pres.)
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To: Libloather

GPS and GNSS are two completely different systems.

A point the author seems blissfully ignorant of.


33 posted on 04/14/2019 8:09:30 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: bingoplayer

They’ll have to pry my Rand-McNally from my cold, dead fingers!


34 posted on 04/14/2019 8:13:46 AM PDT by BradyLS (ODO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: cherry

Binoculars and bridge wing watch standers. “Gee, I wonder what that huge shadow is out there. Probably nothing.” If there was no bridge watch out on the wings then someone is WRONG!


35 posted on 04/14/2019 8:15:03 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Bonemaker
My first GPS was a gray plastic sextant.


36 posted on 04/14/2019 8:27:03 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Nateman

No, it isn’t. Radar and the Mk I eyeball are how all ships avoid collisions in shipping lanes and waterways. In both the recent collisions, neither was being properly used.


37 posted on 04/14/2019 8:27:53 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Up until at least the ‘60’s Marine aviators had to learn Morse code and semaphores or so I have been told. Don’t know about the other branches.


38 posted on 04/14/2019 8:28:20 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneow)
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To: Libloather

Our military being too dependent on GPS is insane be it air,land or water. That also goes for our vulnerability to EMP.


39 posted on 04/14/2019 8:29:24 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: BradyLS

No kidding. Wait till these driverless card start killing more people, They should be banned.


40 posted on 04/14/2019 8:29:38 AM PDT by bingoplayer
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