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Alarm Was Raised 23 Minutes Before the Notre Dame Blaze Was Detected
dailybeast ^ | 4/16/2019 | Erin Zaleski, Linda Hervieux, Barbie Latza Nadeau

Posted on 04/16/2019 8:09:13 AM PDT by RummyChick

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To: Old Teufel Hunden

My immediate thought, after being alerted by a FR headline, then looking at the plume of smoke and fire, was, oh, they’ll put it out. Then it was out of control and the spire was collapsing. It seemed then that there was perhaps a propellant in use.

Same exact story and reaction to 9/11

Not that ito suggest was lit by anyone intentionally perhaps it was incompetent workers accidentally igniting the ancient wood But why did Paris not have a better more proper response? Was it impossible to do? Or did they not care enough? And why not a fire brigade stationed on the Ile?

Well, God Blessed France in so many ways. I hope the Parisians get that, but...


21 posted on 04/16/2019 8:55:04 AM PDT by stanne
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To: RummyChick

No sprinkler system to protect this place?


22 posted on 04/16/2019 8:59:57 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Navy Patriot
"I have a French Government Issue Fire Axe for sale, in brand new condition, dropped only once."

Paris FD drill:


23 posted on 04/16/2019 9:00:22 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: PLMerite

Seeing the magnitude of the fire at the cathedral, the firemen starting to surrender en masse.


24 posted on 04/16/2019 9:04:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RummyChick
“You can destroy Notre Dame,” Monsignor Michel Aupetit said Monday night. “But you can’t destroy the soul of Paris.”

The Monsignor is incorrect. The soul of Paris has already been destroyed. It has been willingly surrendered to the barbarians.

I can see no logical reason to believe that there is any hope for western Europe.

25 posted on 04/16/2019 9:07:50 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

1950: Beirut is the Paris of the Middle East
2019: Paris is the Beirut of Europe


26 posted on 04/16/2019 9:08:58 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RummyChick

IOW, the first group got there and did a thorough search of that huge building and left all within a few short minutes.

Then, on the second alarm, they picked lent from their belly buttons for an hour before turning on the water.


27 posted on 04/16/2019 9:08:59 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: Jemian

A modern fire detection system identifies what sensor tripped. So you go to that sensor’s location and see what is going on there. Was that done?


28 posted on 04/16/2019 9:10:02 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: ßuddaßudd

Likely the Rose Window will be replaced with a crescent.


29 posted on 04/16/2019 9:10:43 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: central_va

“Seeing the magnitude of the fire at the cathedral, the firemen starting to surrender en masse.”

That’s what I wanted, but I couldn’t find an image. Perhaps my search terms were faulty.


30 posted on 04/16/2019 9:13:18 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: RummyChick

It may have been the smell of smoke that triggered the initial call. It can take time to track that down.

I am keeping my mind open, but in light of everything, one of the things I am keeping open is muslim involvement.


31 posted on 04/16/2019 9:23:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: Can't control their emotions. Can't control their actions. Deny them control of anything.)
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To: dfwgator

Made me wince. So true, so ugly.


32 posted on 04/16/2019 9:29:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ( On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. - "We see well only with the heart")
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To: rlmorel
I am keeping my mind open, but in light of everything, one of the things I am keeping open is muslim involvement.

We would have to be brain dead to rule out the real possibility of that. IMO, baring *clear cut* evidence that it was not Muslims, I would make my bets that it was.

Muslims are running amok in Paris, basically attacking churches (and non Muslims). We don't even have an accurate count of how churches and how much damage they are causing.

In the absence of concrete evidence that it was an accident, it is only logical and prudent to consider them the primary suspects.

33 posted on 04/16/2019 9:40:04 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“If it turns out not to be a tragic accident but intentionally set we have to look at the religion of peace angle.”

If it was in the US, I would say dems was just as likely


34 posted on 04/16/2019 9:40:11 AM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: dfwgator

Very good.


35 posted on 04/16/2019 9:41:31 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: stanne
Then it was out of control and the spire was collapsing. It seemed then that there was perhaps a propellant in use.

I am open to all possibilities at this point. Intentional, accident, lets see the evidence (assuming they don't cherry pick it to fit a narrative).

That said, the roof was made of 150 year old wood (from a 19th century replacement) and lead (which melts and runs and spreads the fire). I could see that going up really fast whether it was set intentionally or someone left a soldering iron on when they left for the day.

36 posted on 04/16/2019 9:44:32 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: z3n
I wouldn’t want to be in that meeting.

Yeah, that one's going to be a little...awkward. I don't think anyone's going to be bringing croissants.

37 posted on 04/16/2019 9:45:26 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Given the spate of church desecrations apparently happening in France, and that is a week before Easter I agree that until I hear otherwise, I give credence to muslim involvement.


38 posted on 04/16/2019 9:55:44 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: Can't control their emotions. Can't control their actions. Deny them control of anything.)
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To: RummyChick

Ah. First alarm was to clear building. Terrorists probably wore fire suits. Fake fireman.


39 posted on 04/16/2019 10:15:43 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: RummyChick

(They could make a chunk of money just selling the charcoal on the floor ... I have a piece of the Berlin wall, why not a piece of Notre Dame?)


40 posted on 04/16/2019 11:16:52 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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