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A Physician's View of the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ
CBN ^ | 19 Apr 19 | Dr. C. Truman Davis

Posted on 04/19/2019 3:04:53 AM PDT by SkyPilot

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1 posted on 04/19/2019 3:04:53 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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2 posted on 04/19/2019 3:06:56 AM PDT by SkyPilot (("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6))
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3 posted on 04/19/2019 3:10:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot (("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6))
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thanks. the book “A physician at Calvary” I read over 20 years ago and in my medical opinion is the definitive work and analysis on crucifixion. In my medical opinion what is overlooked and not talked about is the trauma done to the median nerve when the wrist is nailed and the autonomic neuropathic symptoms that ensue. The profuse sweating for example that is legendary in crucifixion is in my opinion from this. People crucified would end up looking like an asthmatic death as well as the process leads to ventilatory problems, metabolic acidosis and severe muscle cramping. In summary, it is not just people hanging on a cross but a severe type of torture that is very complicated and horrifying. It was eventually banned even by Roman standards. In my medical opinion Jesus died of pericardial tamponade, hemoperricardium, from the severe scouring at the pillar and chest trauma. Most people crucified would last for sometime days. Jesus lasted only 3 hours, to the amazement of Pilate. Water and blood came from his side, Holy Baptism and Holy Eucharist. Anybody interested in this should read “A surgeon at Calvary” and I have multiple copies of it in my library.


4 posted on 04/19/2019 3:26:39 AM PDT by Cannonball Bill
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To: Cannonball Bill; SkyPilot

Fascinating and very helpful. Thank you.


5 posted on 04/19/2019 3:45:09 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: SkyPilot
It's Friday, But Sunday's Comin'
6 posted on 04/19/2019 4:14:05 AM PDT by Jemian (Walls work and Walls Save Lives.)
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To: SkyPilot

Bump for later reading to the wife.


7 posted on 04/19/2019 4:30:58 AM PDT by fredhead (Duty, Honor, Country.....Honor, Courage, Commitment)
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To: SkyPilot

The most poignant account of the Lord’s crucifixion I’ve ever read is in the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia. Very sobering.


8 posted on 04/19/2019 4:31:30 AM PDT by LouAvul (Freedom without responsibility is chaos. Next step? The Abyss.)
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9 posted on 04/19/2019 5:53:36 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A working definition of the new "Elite" would be; "Those who matter to those who think they matter.")
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My dad who was a physician and a devout Catholic all his life told me there is simply no way the nails could have been driven through the palms. As the article points out, there’s nothing but flesh there. That cannot support the weight. The nails would just rip through the flesh. The Romans had to have driven the nails through the wrists where there is enough bone to support the weight.

This was a medieval mistake on par with the mistranslation that caused medieval artists to depict some figures with horns on their heads.


10 posted on 04/19/2019 6:01:49 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Jemian

Thank you for sharing.

It’s Friday, But Sunday’s Comin’


11 posted on 04/19/2019 6:04:19 AM PDT by Dacula
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To: Cannonball Bill

Will look for that book.

I did a Bible Study, years ago, that painstakingly covered Jesus’ crucifixion .... the torture and trauma.

Not an easy study.


12 posted on 04/19/2019 6:15:59 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: SkyPilot

Thanks for posting.


13 posted on 04/19/2019 6:31:12 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: Cannonball Bill

I’ve read the book as well and it is an incedible work of science as science should be.


14 posted on 04/19/2019 6:55:17 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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And can it be that I should gain
An int’rest in the Savior’s blood?
Died He for me, who caused His pain—
For me, who Him to death pursued?
Amazing love! How can it be,
That Thou, my God, shouldst die for me?
Refrain:
Amazing love! How can it be,
That Thou, my God, shouldst die for me?
’Tis myst’ry all: th’ Immortal dies:
Who can explore His strange design?
In vain the firstborn seraph tries
To sound the depths of love divine.
’Tis mercy all! Let earth adore,
Let angel minds inquire no more.
He left His Father’s throne above—
So free, so infinite His grace—
Emptied Himself of all but love,
And bled for Adam’s helpless race:
’Tis mercy all, immense and free,
For, O my God, it found out me!
Long my imprisoned spirit lay,
Fast bound in sin and nature’s night;
Thine eye diffused a quick’ning ray—
I woke, the dungeon flamed with light;
My chains fell off, my heart was free,
I rose, went forth, and followed Thee.
No condemnation now I dread;
Jesus, and all in Him, is mine;
Alive in Him, my living Head,
And clothed in righteousness divine,
Bold I approach th’ eternal throne,
And claim the crown, through Christ my own. Charles Wesley


15 posted on 04/19/2019 7:17:06 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Cannonball Bill

Bttt.

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16 posted on 04/19/2019 7:43:01 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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17 posted on 04/19/2019 9:42:43 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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Thanks for the Ping. . . List pinged.


18 posted on 04/19/2019 9:45:44 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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"The Titulus Crucis", the surviving portion of the wooden sign
that was hung above His head on the cross proclaiming Jesus as
"King of the Jews".

19 posted on 04/19/2019 9:59:21 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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In my medical opinion Jesus died of pericardial tamponade, hemoperricardium, from the severe scouring at the pillar and chest trauma. Most people crucified would last for sometime days. Jesus lasted only 3 hours, to the amazement of Pilate.

You’re correct. The written and oral record of crucifixion shows that the vast majority, and in fact likely all other, crucifixion victims were not scourged before being crucified. Most victims were in generally good health at the time of their crucifixion and often died of exposure, or even dehydration. Scourging was a punishment all its own and persons who suffered scourging often did not survive the recovery process. The Hebrew limitation of 40 lashes (in practice they’d stop at a safe 39 lashes, in case someone lost count) was because experience had taught them that more than 40 was likely a death sentence, and scourging was a punishment reserved for infractions not quite worthy of death so they didn’t want to take a chance of making an error.

In the case of Jesus, the process became political and Pilate tried to appease the mob by a severe scourging, but afterwards, the Jewish leaders fearing a living, recovering Jesus with ardent followers, rallied a vociferous mob to cry loudly enough to persuade Pilate to agree to let the people choose between Jesus (Jeshua Bar Josef, called Son of God, King of the Jews) and Jeshua Bar-Abbas (an interesting name, the same first name as Jesus, and an appellation which translates as "son of his father" which as I understand it was a Hebrew slang term for bastard, but a name which in earlier years had been hurled at Jesus due to the suspect nature of His birth.). Thus Jesus’ crucifixion may be the only one which combined both forms of Roman punishment.

If not unique, such combined scourging/crucifixions are so rare, that the odds of all of the unique details attributed to this one particular execution being found on an inexplicable artifact such as the Shroud are so extremely high that it must either be the real cloth that covered Jesus’ body after the crucifixion or the creation of a multi-discipline genius with encyclopedic knowledge of 1st century Jewish burial practices, Roman crucifixion and scourging, 20th and 21st Century 3D terrain mapping in 2D, quasi-photographic techniques at least 500 years before the invention of Photography, medical knowledge including genotype blood typing and DNA, optical and electron microscopy, palynology, and the microscopic pollens needed to be found imbedded in the fibers of the cloth, and much more. . . All to make a hoax to fool medieval peasants with a work of artifice which with all of our technical marvels we have at hand today we cannot even begin to duplicate today!

It gets to the point of having to seriously consider whether it is more miraculous that the Shroud was left behind as a record of a known person who was already known for doing miracles who was miraculously resurrected from death by God, or some unknown, unsung, unreported genius, created the Shroud as a single, unequaled, unique masterpiece of art, using never seen before or after techniques based on the story of that resurrection event that can baffle the combined scientific expertise of seven centuries later as not only how, but even what it is, and then rested on the unsung laurels of that creation, satisfied with no acclimation for his creation, perfectly happy to hide it in a small town in rural France.

20 posted on 04/19/2019 11:09:12 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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