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To: Olog-hai
It is only a question of time until the EU, driven by Germany and France, moves to subvert unanimity requirements to install qualified majority voting to get around any objection by Hungary or other East Bloc nation.

The irony is that the move will of course make the European Union even less Democratic and in doing so it relies on the Lisbon treaty which itself was a work around of rejection of the European Union by the people.

The combined economic power of France and Germany, especially Germany, as an implicit economic threat to the rest of the EU and it is the source of this drive toward an ever more undemocratic supranational agency.


12 posted on 05/06/2019 4:43:32 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Depends on what you mean by “democratic”. When you’ve had people like Woodrow Wilson declaring that “socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same” in the past, then there are merely different levels and intensities of autocracy within the Leviathan, the intensity thereof increasing where the elites demand their agenda not be interrupted.

And phrases like “supranational agency” are merely modern euphemisms for “empire”.

The Treaty of Lisbon is indeed the rejected EU constitution rammed down the throats of its citizens. And Ireland merely proved to the EU how easily a country can be brainwashed into acceptance of tyranny after themselves rejecting and then re-voting to accept (and then never getting to vote again).


14 posted on 05/06/2019 4:58:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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