Posted on 05/12/2019 10:33:41 PM PDT by LibWhacker
California and it’s sheeple will complain that PG&E can’t be allowed to shut down power to any area, in an attempt to avoid downed power lines causing a wild fire, and they will win that argument and force PG&E to keep the grid open.
Then there will be a bad wildfire this year, with $billions of public and private damage and the state will sue PG&E for causing the wildfire.
Why anyone would want to be the head of PG&E is a mystery. Not many people will knowingly put their head on the public chopping block.
Bingo. This has nothing to do with either civil or electrical engineering. This has to do with liability.
It’s a fact of life. There are warning labels printed on garbage bags. That has zero to do with public safety.
Tort bar is a cancer.
Maybe suing the electric utility into bankruptcy was not such a great idea, after all...
Why don’t they just SELL the Transmission lines to the communities they serve, force them, the new owners to accept all liability? If they say no, Disconnect them.
The problem is mostly trees that have grown close to the lines.
so cut them down ...
Sounds good, thanks for that! Already googled it and bookmarked a company near me. And it’s cheaper than solar panels backed up with an underpowered gas generator, right?
First, we’ll try to get out of California, asap. Not going to be easy. But failing that, I’m definitely going to check out whole house propane or nat. gas, thanks.
Lots of homes in the northern states have it, because it runs off their existing 500-1000 gal propane tank that heats their home, water, clothes dryer, and cooks their food.
Propane is the only affordable option in rural areas without Nat-gas.
When the grid power goes out it fires up and starts powering your home in just a few sec.
It’s way cheaper than gas or diesel generators, and there is no stinky fuel to go get, and no tank to fill.
Your bulk propane company fills your tank when needed and it just sets there ready when you need it. Propane won’t get stale like gas if you don’t use it, propane will keep for years and years.
“so cut them down ...”
It should be rather easy but it isn’t. Every time someones tree catches fire due to being all up in the powerlines, they call the fire department. We come out and listen to them simultaneously gripe about that and how the power company butchered their beautiful Hackberry tree cutting it away from the lines. Some have tried to sue for the damage to their trees.
It has come to the point that the power company would be better off reducing the rates by the amount that they spend cutting trees and just unload the responsibility on the owner of the tree.
When it causes problems, hand the owner a list of approved contractors and say get someone out to fix this in X hours or the fines start rolling in.
My question at this point is does it gradually leak out even if you don’t use it? Or does a full propane tank stay full pretty much indefinitely? Thanks.
No, it lasts about forever and don’t leak out.
I’ve had propane in a tank that set for over 15 years and fine when I used it.
Gasoline or Diesel only lasts a year or so, propane lasts decades.
I should add that you should get your own propane tank instead of using a tank owned by a propane company.
If you have your own tank any propane company can fill it, and you get the propane cheaper.
A used, reconditioned, cleaned and painted propane 250-500 gal tank costs about $300-$400, but you get the money back by getting propane cheaper when you fill it.
I’m sold, thank you! :-)
Bookmarking all this, thanks.
One more thing...If you know how to do it you can fill your propane gas grill tanks from your own bulk tank for about $2.00!
Or you can plumb your gas grill direct to the propane line and never have to worry about have your grill run out while cooking.
Okay, wow. Will check that out, too, when the time comes, thx.
Glad to help a fellow FReeper.
PG&E is not blacking out power users.
PG&E is limiting liability from power line chasing lawyers.
The customers are irrelevant. Purchasing electricity is a voluntary transaction
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