Posted on 05/15/2019 8:41:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
News reports suggest that in the coming weeks, the United States and China might sign an agreement that repeals the tariffs the two nations have been levying on each other’s goods for the past nine months. If past behavior is any guide, Donald Trump will call it the greatest deal ever, and global markets will breathe a sigh of relief. But the deal will likely constitute only a modest pause in Washington’s growing hostility toward Beijing.
That’s partly because, for Trump, no agreement is truly final. The president, The New York Times recently observed, “has repeatedly agreed to new trade terms with foreign partners, then talked about undoing those deals to achieve additional goals.” Trump has already begun to renege on commitments made as part of the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement, which he hailed as “incredible” in October.
But the slide toward cold war with China will likely continue for reasons that go beyond Trump himself. While Trump’s language is particularly extreme—during the 2016 campaign, he portrayed the relationship between the Chinese and American economies in language of rape—describing Beijing’s economic behavior as predatory, and demanding that America respond with punishments and threats, has become commonplace in both parties. From Elizabeth Warren, who earlier this year claimed that China has “weaponized its economy,” to Marco Rubio, who last year tweeted that Chinese aim to “steal & cheat their way to world dominance,” leading Democrats and Republicans describe China’s economic practices as uniquely malevolent and getting worse. In fact, neither accusation is true.
The u.s.-china relationship is, of course, about more than economics.
Politically, Beijing is growing more authoritarian, as evidenced by its Orwellian domestic-surveillance policies, its mass internment of Muslim Uighurs, and the cult of personality now developing around Chinese President Xi Jinping. Militarily, China increasingly dominates the South China Sea.
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
remember the Atlantic is owned by leftist Internet mogels.
We have no more press.
Author’s argument in a nutshell:
Beijing’s economic policies are actually quite typical of a country at its stage of development. Like many regimes in the developing world, Beijing fears the “middle-income trap,” in which rising wages undermine its advantage as a center of low-cost manufacturing before it develops the capacity to produce higher-value goods. China worries that unless it moves from assembling iPhones to inventing them, economic growth will stagnate and popular unrest will follow.
China therefore erects tariffs to protect industries it hopes will help it make that leap. So did the United States when it was industrializing. “Give us a protective tariff,” declared Abraham Lincoln in 1844, “and we will have the greatest nation on Earth.” So do many developing nations today. China has a lower trade-weighted average tariff than Argentina, Brazil, India, South Korea, Indonesia, South Africa, Turkey, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Mexico.
I’m sure The Atlantic has better information on this subject than does President Trump.
Regarding STEALING OF AMERICA’s INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, Author defends China by this argument:
According to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which last year ranked countries on how well they protect the intellectual property of foreign companies, China scored fairly well among developing nations: just below Mexico and Malaysia but above Turkey, Brazil, South Africa, and the Philippines.
A 2017 study of cases in which foreign companies sued for patent infringement in Chinese courts by Renjun Bian of the University of California at Berkeley School of Law found that foreign companies actually prevailed at higher rates than did Chinese litigants.
In other words, China isn’t doing anything that other developing countries aren’t.
For the 9,376th time, the tariffs are NOT about trade. They are about the $500-$800 billion annual theft of IP.
Well then it’s even MORE important TO #### THEM NOW because they are communist monsters.
We all have seem to forgotten that because they let their people earn some money.
#### em.
Bury em.
Keep em there.
Marco Rubio, who last year tweeted that Chinese aim to “steal & cheat their way to world dominance,” leading Democrats and Republicans describe China’s economic practices as uniquely malevolent and getting worse. In fact, neither accusation is true.
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I REALLY hate to defend the weasel Micro Rubio, but he is right in this instance.
Anyone with a working brain can see how dishonest the Chinese have been just in the intellectual property arena.
They steal whatever military secrets the Clinton’s won’t sell them.
International trade is a competitive sport. Let’s just play to win. Any cheating (or not) is incidental.
THIS x1000
Many people have forgotten that they are still the RED Chinese.
Communist still isn’t cool.
Trade is merely how we engage with other countries. trading radios for soybeans isn’t the issue.
China effectively runs a fascist-style economy. Completely state-controlled, for the benefit of the state and the Communist Party. It is as “open” as its ever going to be
its simply time to recognize this fact and pull back from engagement with them. Trade is the most obvious method to use.
Atlantic=lying Red Chinese SOBs
[Karl Marx] envisioned a regimented breed of Pavlovian men whose minds could be triggered into instant action by signals from their masters. He wanted a race of men who would no longer depend upon free will, morals, ethics or conscience for guidance. Perhaps without realizing it, Marx was setting out to create a race of human beings conditioned to think like criminals. …No such thing as a Marxist that does not cheat on trade, or anything else for that matter.
— The Naked Communist
Yeah man WTH?!?!?
I don’t give a #### what their problem is economically.
We used to WANT communist countries to fail.
Now we worry about them?
Because they might what? Use their military?
Thank God Ronald Reagan didn’t think that way.
Bigly.
....and your reasoning is?
Yes, it’s still the International Chinese Communist Conspiracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEy5vIWCJLQ
China cheats like the lying ba$tards they are.
https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/cases_e/ds309_e.htm
Gee, that's not what our trade advisors are telling us.
"Who to believe...what a dilemma." "The lying, 'hate the orange man' media or our patriotic trade advisors like Navarro, Lighthizer, and Kudlow?"
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