Posted on 05/26/2019 9:36:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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I wonder if Trudies eyebrow fell off tonight...... just speculating here.
They’re claiming Tommy got 2%. That doesn’t seem right at all.
UKIP became marginalized because their new leader hired Robinson as a an adviser, Then Robinson ups and runs as an Independent, I don’t get it. He had no prospects of winning.
Overall “Centre-right” and “Center-left” lost seats, and their collective majority that they’ve always held.
The right made gains as did liberals (centristy EU lovers) and Greens.
UK Results
Brexit Party 31.7% +
Lib Dems 18.6% +
Labour 14.1% -
Greens 11.1% +
Tories 8.7% -
Ukip 3.6% -
SNP 3.4%
Change UK 2.8% Lololol
The next UK PM must deliever Brexit or Cornyn will win the next election
If France, Le Pen’s peeps edged ahead of Macron’s (each with under a quarter of the vote) for first place
In Italy Lega placed first
In Germany, Merkels place first, Greens beat the SDP for 2nd place. A small increase for the AFD, not much.
Yes. Leave = Brexit+UKIP = 35.3% of the vote
Remain = LibDem+Greens+SNP+Change = 35.9%
They are still divided in opinions. Whichever way it goes, half of the electorate will be upset.
None of that makes sense to me. I also looked at the district area he was running in. It always went to labour consistently.
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Not as well as the Democrat Death and Taxes Party. Returns for the Donner Party are said to be incomplete.
Those are the airplanes with two left wings, aren’t they?
The message to the currently-ruling Tories, though, is that most of THEIR electorate is for BRexit.
Very correct. The Tories are better off (for their party’s sake and not the country’s) to take the Brexit party’s position and go for a hard no-deal Brexit. Consequences be hanged
No, exit polling and projections were available but no results could be released by any country until the last polling locations closed.
As for polling having closed in some places - yes, for example voting ended in England last Thursday night.
It occurs that we see a strong tidal surge toward populism in Europe, a so-called populism of the right of the kind Bannon has been crusading for and a populism of the left perhaps represented by the surging greens. In any event it seems there is a disintegration in the center with this support leaching out to either side, but both of the recipient sides being populist. Both are populist at least in the sense that they are anti-elite, at least as elitism is identified with Brussels.
My view of populism is guarded but if I had to choose between them I would much prefer the population of the right articulated by Steve Bannon. I can understand the popularity in Germany of the greens, they are simply living in a media universe in which there is no opposition. I further note that in places like Hungary and Italy the green element is not quite so pronounced. Further, in Great Britain one must be cautious about identifying these election results as populist because the entanglement with the European Union was the overriding issue and it is not clear the support for Brexit was essentially populist at core.
Certainly populism is perhaps the vital antitoxin which must be administered to the body politic if we are to restore a semblance of constitutional conservatism to the Republic and if we are to restore a purer kind of capitalism for the benefit of all. Crony capitalism, get along quasi-socialism, and feckless leadership are leading the establishment Republican party in America toward the same fate that has befallen the Tories.
Meanwhile in the US and in Europe, the left often masquerading as greens, make the same appeal from a different direction and they can offer far more goodies from the public trough than can populist nationalists. Bannon style national populism offers more jobs through nationalist mercantilism, more tax of the rich, and less power to the elites. Greens promise more goodies through higher taxes and more government, all dressed up as democracy which legitimatizes itself as the rule of law, a concept which we conservatives regard as the rule of the mob.
We shall see.
Interesting perspective.
thank you
not sure what to make of that. I still hold that the UK should get its hard no-deal Brexit, or the turmoil will never stop (on one side), but the numbers tell of a still hopelessly divided
There are big chunks of Labour and Tory supporters who support Brexit, but who voted for their parties out of historical loyalty or just family tradition. UKIP will disappear, leaving Brexit as the party with by far the biggest block of votes in the UK. In a “first past the post” general election, Brexit would win a sizeable minority government.
The Brexit vote is spread. in a FPTP system they’d lose to the Tories etc. Remember that the Brexit party is a single issue party
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