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House Dems propose 3.1 percent pay hike for federal workers (Pander 2020)
The Hill ^ | 06/03/19 | Niv Elis

Posted on 06/03/2019 8:25:38 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

House Democrats are proposing a 3.1 percent pay hike for federal workers in 2020.

The raise was included in the draft appropriations bill covering financial services and general government, which is expected to advance through a subcommittee hearing on Monday and advance to the House floor later in the month.

President Trump blocked a scheduled 2.1 percent increase in pay to federal workers last year, in an order that froze federal pay. He later agreed to a 1.9 percent increase in federal pay that was included in a spending package passed by Congress.

The draft bill with the pay hike for federal workers would add $1.4 billion in new federal spending.

It also provides more money to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) for tax enforcement, increases funding for offices combating financial crimes and terrorism funding and funds election security grants.

“The bill provides increased funding so consumers can receive safe, quality products, small businesses can access the training and resources needed to succeed, and disadvantaged communities can achieve economic growth," said House Appropriations Committee Chairwoman Nita Lowey (D-N.Y.).

"Additionally, the bill provides a significant increase in funding to improve election security and integrity, because our democracy belongs in the hands of American voters – not in the clutches of foreign powers.”

The bill also strips out riders that had been included on previous bills dealing with the District of Columbia. Those riders blocked local funds from being used for abortion, legalizing marijuana and needle exchange programs.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2020election; federalemployees; federalworkers; payraise; payraisebill

1 posted on 06/03/2019 8:25:38 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
When you run out of logic and constructive ideas, simply promise cash to blocks of voters.

Now class, let's all remember what LBJ said along those lines............

2 posted on 06/03/2019 8:29:14 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: yesthatjallen

The price of buying votes is getting higher and higher. It used to be a free beer or a cigar. How times have changed.


3 posted on 06/03/2019 8:29:15 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: yesthatjallen

100% Dem win. Bad GOP squishes.


4 posted on 06/03/2019 8:29:37 AM PDT by GOP Congress
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To: yesthatjallen

Just say NO.


5 posted on 06/03/2019 8:33:12 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: yesthatjallen

I support the pay raise if there is a 5% cut in federal jobs


6 posted on 06/03/2019 8:34:34 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: GOP Congress
Exactly.

If they get the pay raise Democrats claim victory. If they don't get the pay raise Democrats still look like the good guys because they tried to get them a raise.

If Republicans vote no they're the bad guys. Even if they vote yes, it was still the Democrats who proposed it so they get the credit.

7 posted on 06/03/2019 8:39:19 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
My daughter-in-law works for the feds, makes a very good buck, works 60+ hours a week, voted for Trump, and is a rarity within the fed "workforce".

She is a manager, knows finance and databases and actually tries to save the feds money, but it took her over three grueling years to get a non-producer, lazy lay about, fired and even then, the feds let her retire instead of out right firing her.

The details would make your hair stand on end, but you've heard the story before.

Trump is doing the best he can, but I'm not sure that the swamp can ever be really drained.

Swamp creatures start out as fingerling swimmers and most are eaten by the bigger older, swamp creatures.

The ones that survive form gangs, like SWP-13, the Latin Snappers, the Black Inner City Swampers, etc. and fight off the other and fight with each other.

All the fighting makes only the strongest still able to survive the swamp water, which makes them even harder to kill.

8 posted on 06/03/2019 8:46:50 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke all mooselimb terrorists, today.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Pander. Pander. Pander

Cut salaries, layoffs, terminations, outsourcing.

The more the merrier


9 posted on 06/03/2019 8:48:59 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Pussie Smollett, Mizzou, campus fake nooses, fake "protests" FAKE EVERYTHING Hey CNN? lol)
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As soon as the National Debt is paid off and the Federal Budget is balanced, give those poor overworked folks a raise.


10 posted on 06/03/2019 8:49:04 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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I’d prefer an across the board 10% for ALL federal employees, except the military!

And, a huge RIF!

Slash and burn - too many bureaucrats! Get ridofem!


11 posted on 06/03/2019 9:30:15 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: yesthatjallen

The US government. The only organization in the country that gives employees a raise for doing nothing or screwing up everything they touch.


12 posted on 06/03/2019 9:32:32 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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I’d say agree to the pay raise with the provision that any federal employee still on the old CSRS system by the end of the fiscal year be automatically moved to the FERS system. The manpower savings will more than cover the costs of the pay increase and all those billets held up by civil servants retired in place for 10+ years will make a world of difference for younger feds blocked out of promotions and innovation by the entrenched older feds


13 posted on 06/03/2019 9:34:31 AM PDT by jz638
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CSRS ended in 1983 or 1985 I forger which.
Very few CSRS’ers left.


14 posted on 06/03/2019 9:46:55 AM PDT by Reily
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We need to SLASH ALL pay by fifty percent. WTH do these PUBLIC SERVANTS think they are?


15 posted on 06/03/2019 10:41:30 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Meanwhile, my Soc.Sec. check will be less, just like it is every year, due to another rise in Medicare costs. Of course, if I was a retired gov’t worker....


16 posted on 06/03/2019 11:34:49 AM PDT by beelzepug (OCD and proud of it!)
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Tie fed pay increases to funding for the wall at the southern border. No funding of the wall, then no pay increases at all. For each $10 billion of wall funding, allow 1 percent pay increase up to 3 percent max. Contingent on the wall actually being built with the new funding. To hell with the swamp dwellers.


17 posted on 06/03/2019 11:50:06 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: Reily
CSRS ended in 1983 or 1985 I forger which. Very few CSRS’ers left.

You are sort of correct, CSRS eligibility ended in 1986, and there was a half-hearted push to get civil servants onto FERS, but as of 2018 (the best figures I can still find), they were still 6% of the workforce.

5 or 6 percent seems like a small amount, but that small number disproportionally represents senior decisionmaking roles. That's not necessarily bad on its own, but it does make dislodging bad bureaucracy and bad bureaucratic decisions much tougher. If you want to drain the swamp, one way is to disincentiveize staying in it. Also, the ones who rose to a certain level and then just stuck it out, they are holding younger folk back.In agencies and departments legislatively bound to have no more than 3% of their workforce above a certain pay grade, a GS13 who has been spending every morning doing a crossword puzzle and half the afternoon napping represents one the spot a much more competant GS 12 can't have.

I know there are a few folks on this forum who would be fine with every federal employee being miserable and getting nothing done ever, but you don't get good government by having a miserable and lazy workforce, and you don't get good senior level workers by having your best junior workers quit federal service in disgust because a guy who can't open a PDF file on his own is managing an IT department and mocking his millennial underlings for not knowing how to sew on a button.

18 posted on 06/03/2019 3:43:21 PM PDT by jz638
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