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'Low-Cost' Renewable Energy Is Breathtakingly Expensive
americanthinker.com ^ | 6/10/2019 | Joseph Toomey

Posted on 06/10/2019 8:29:51 AM PDT by rktman

How often do we hear proponents of renewable energy claiming that wind and solar power are the lowest-cost power sources on offer? Hardly a day goes by without these ideological zealots offering one or another discredited argument that their favored sources are not only necessary to save the planet from some existential climate catastrophe, but also lower-cost than conventional power sources. These outlandish claims got a major boost when a freshman House of Representatives member unveiled her "Green New Deal," which absurdly claimed that the world would end in 12 years unless the U.S. made a crash effort to radically transform its economy in the next ten years. That transformation would entail, in addition to a lengthy list of inane ideas, complete elimination of beef and dairy cattle, elimination of air travel in favor of high-speed ground transport options, and complete conversion of all power generation to renewable sources like wind and solar power. The contention, born out of economic illiteracy, is that this transformation was not only necessary for planetary survival, but would be so affordable that we would struggle to know what to do with all the newfound prosperity.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; ecowankers; energy; fraud; gangreen; gorons; scam
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Sad to say, but the ecowanker gangreen gorons managed to sell the lie to enough voters in NV that we now have a mandate(NOT the gay sort) to have 50% of NV energy needs supplied by renewable means by 2030. Or what? And the commentary to the approval by the 'ignos' is as expected. Save the erf. No more pollution. Lower costs. Sure thing buttercup. You keep believing that.
1 posted on 06/10/2019 8:29:51 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

“Destroy every building, then rebuild it with green tech..!”

Ridiculous.


2 posted on 06/10/2019 8:35:02 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: rktman

There is no such thing as ‘renewable energy’...................


3 posted on 06/10/2019 8:35:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: rktman

OK I’m sorry this writer is a complete moron and I can prove it very easily having been in this business 30 years

Solar panels take your pick there’s hundreds of different ones right now are about $.50 per watt or about $150 for a 300 W solar panel

That’s 300 W solar panel take three of them you have one kilowatt or 1KW

OK now we’re at 500 bucks

Of course you need an inverter and some other parts so let’s say maybe 1000$

1 kW will produce 1500 kWh Per year average in the United States up to 2500 in the desert and is low is 800 and very northern areas

Using the 1500 kWh number let’s use the value of $.15 per kilowatt hour

And that gives you $225 per year in electric cost avoided to the utility

OK genius author - tell me what the return on investment on that please ?

Anybody else want to try to argue with me on this? You’ll lose


4 posted on 06/10/2019 8:35:56 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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Well now....... For many years I had a wood burning stove. All the BTU’s generated by this stove were from free wood obtained from mostly other people’s cut down trees.

The trees regrow.

The wood burning stove BTU’s were renewable energy

QED


5 posted on 06/10/2019 8:39:57 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: Truthoverpower

what is reasonable range for KWH a family of 4 uses up?


6 posted on 06/10/2019 8:41:03 AM PDT by Principled (No one will conquer America, from within or without, until its citizenry are disarmed.)
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To: bert

You converted the sun’s stored energy in the wood (mass) to heat energy for your home. Once it is gone, it’s gone................


7 posted on 06/10/2019 8:42:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: rktman

“Low-Cost’ Renewable Energy Is Breathtakingly Expensive”

ALways has been, Always will be.


8 posted on 06/10/2019 8:45:54 AM PDT by carmen2017
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To: Red Badger

The energy from the sun is infinite and does not end


9 posted on 06/10/2019 8:46:54 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: bert

Nothing physical is ‘infinite’. The sun will end.................


10 posted on 06/10/2019 8:48:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Principled

$10/(per day for electricity) divided by $2.40/kw-day = 4 KW /day or 120Kw per month


11 posted on 06/10/2019 8:52:09 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Red Badger

renewable energy = perpetual motion = impossible


12 posted on 06/10/2019 8:56:17 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Truthoverpower
For single family applications I'm sure it works. When trying to run everything in the entire state, maybe not so much. 🌞
13 posted on 06/10/2019 8:56:53 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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not sure i understand but it seems like an investment of about $1000 would pay for nearly all electricity in scenario?

My son’s home is family of 4 and they do use $7-$9 per day in electricity.

The purchases described above come to about $1000 and would produce around 1500 kwh per year ?


14 posted on 06/10/2019 9:02:30 AM PDT by Principled (No one will conquer America, from within or without, until its citizenry are disarmed.)
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Once it is gone, it’s gone................

Kind of like water huh? Once you drink it disappears from the planet.</s>

15 posted on 06/10/2019 9:03:23 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

The Left declares the Second Law of Thermodynamics to be repealed.................


16 posted on 06/10/2019 9:06:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Truthoverpower

If it was as great as you say, and you left out plenty, the feds wouldn’t need to subsidize it to get people to use it.

Solar works for small off grid applications. You can’t run a first world economy on it.


17 posted on 06/10/2019 9:07:29 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: rktman

We need a power source that can run 24/7 regardless of weather, wind and solar conditions. The only clean one right now are Generation IV nuclear reactors.


18 posted on 06/10/2019 9:10:25 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Truthoverpower

“one kilowatt or 1KW

“OK now we’re at 500 bucks

“Of course you need an inverter and some other parts so let’s say maybe 1000$

Now let’s look at doing cars instead of LED light bulb and small appliance powering.

1hp = 746 watts ~= $746

100hp ~= $74,600


19 posted on 06/10/2019 9:20:19 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Principled
That’s 300 W solar panel take three of them you have one kilowatt or 1KW

Your 9$ a day represents about 4KW/hr at 220VAC that is around 18 amps average. A one Kilowatt panel can put out about 4.5 amps at 220VAC. That is not even 1/4 of the average amperage you will need.

20 posted on 06/10/2019 9:21:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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