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Now Biden apologizes? (re: segregation)
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Posted on 07/07/2019 11:19:53 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: TigerClaws

https://youtu.be/tC-ZaUDUiwc?t=22


41 posted on 07/07/2019 3:22:58 PM PDT by conservative98
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I think people are losing Biden’s real error here. First, he brought up working with segregationists. It reminds everyone he’s very old for one and it was a self-inflicted wound. Was no point in bringing it up. The current leftists don’t want to work with ANYONE. They only want to destroy Trump and his voters.

Second, Biden was against “forced bussing.” This was precisely the Dixiecrat position — federal government has no business in telling us how to run our schools and if segregation happens so be it.

Biden has not yet said it was correct for the feds to force bussing.

That’s the key issue so there’s further damage to be done to himself. If he says he now sees his mistake, the majority of Americans don’t like kids riding in a school bus far away from their home. If he says he didn’t make a mistake, he’s back to supporting the segregationists.

Biden would be a gift nominee. He’s old and gaffe-prone. No way he has the energy or the mind to keep up with Trump. He looks tired and old. He’s had a lot of years of hard drinking. His son and Joe have major Chinese baggage from the payola did they worked out when Joe was VP.

It’s almost as if he’s been put up to drop out later. Fitting some MSM narrative where the old white men are being replaced by ... whatever victim group they’ve picked as their next contender.


42 posted on 07/07/2019 3:34:45 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
Alabama (Dem) Governor Wallace back in the 50's/60's used to pronounce it "Bussin". Like Biden and most Dems, George didn't like integration via "Bussin" either.

Wallace was some kinda dude. William F. Buckley was attributed with witnessing a famous Wallace quote, "There ain't nobody what loves the niggras like me and Lurleen [his wife]."

43 posted on 07/07/2019 3:36:53 PM PDT by Scooter100
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To: frank ballenger

[ Now as Schiff and Nadler would say: Back to our duty to indict and imprison Donald J Trump. ]

Well, of course. President Trump is anti-New World Order, pro-American, pro-American jobs and pro-American sovereignty.

The New World Order ain’t got no tolerance for THAT kind of dissent.


44 posted on 07/07/2019 7:57:21 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: jmaroneps37

[Please let him be the rat nominee.]

I hope so too. Stay in there Joe!!


45 posted on 07/07/2019 8:03:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: TigerClaws
[“Should that misstep define 50 years of my record"]




46 posted on 07/07/2019 8:07:04 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: TigerClaws

Set up for BigMike...


47 posted on 07/07/2019 8:12:52 PM PDT by northislander
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To: BenLurkin

“So when the ‘ Rats “call for civility” what do they really mean?”

They mean you get to sit down and shut up while they take your money, your rights, and your freedom.

Anything else is uncivil.

L


48 posted on 07/07/2019 8:18:06 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: wardaddy; wetgundog; Dilbert San Diego; Ohioan

“Folks who call themselves conservative applauding the very things which helped destroy them ignorant of what wise men then thought and drinking the Dinesh Beck Levin Hannity Shapiro cool aid”

Well. They are conserving, sorta.... they just happen to be conserving the legacy of Lyndon Johnson and the Republican quislings who carried his water.

You might as well laugh at it at this point. You can’t really blame the average person too young to remember, but you can blame that list of talking heads you just listed whose sole contribution has been to convince everyone that conservatives were marching down the street with MLK, Stokely Carmichael and H. Rap Brown. Well maybe I’m exaggerating a bit... but not much....Power To The People! Power To The People Right On! (strikes pose, raises clenched fist)


49 posted on 07/07/2019 9:03:24 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: wardaddy; wetgundog; Dilbert San Diego; Ohioan
Here's a blast from the past from the brothers who thought MLK was a sellout:

H. Rap Brown & Stokely Carmichael in Oakland (1968) | KQED Archives

"How many white folks you kill today?"

50 posted on 07/07/2019 9:09:44 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: wardaddy; wetgundog; Dilbert San Diego; Ohioan
and here's another golden oldie:

Lester Maddox and Jim Brown Get Into Heated Debate on Segregation | The Dick Cavett Show

51 posted on 07/07/2019 9:38:41 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: wardaddy; wetgundog; Dilbert San Diego; Ohioan
It would be amusing to see if Dinesh, Beck, Levin, Hannity, Shapiro et al are comfortable being "Al Franken Republicans":

Mr. Conservative: Barry Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964

52 posted on 07/07/2019 9:48:18 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: wardaddy; Pelham; DiogenesLamp
One need not even get into racial questions, either per se or incidentally to recognize that the "Civil Rights" movement was a fundamental assault on very basic American principles.

Consider the ideological implications of the decreed use of power against individual property owners, and it is abundantly apparent just how extreme the departure from the social values of the founders--who understood a society based upon personal responsibility & individual rights.

"Civil Rights" vs. Civil Liberties

53 posted on 07/08/2019 11:13:16 AM PDT by Ohioan
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“One need not even get into racial questions, either per se or incidentally to recognize that the “Civil Rights” movement was a fundamental assault on very basic American principles.”

That’s what Goldwater and Reagan believed and it’s why they both opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

And Buckley and Kirk as well. Go back and read National Review from that time and you’ll see that all conservatives opposed the bill because of the thought policing and suspension of free association inherent in it.

But today’s Pop Conservatism celebrates that loss of individual liberty in the service of feel good virtue signalling. And at the same time they can’t figure out where the ability of government to sue a cake maker came from. I’m listening to Hannity yammer on just now celebrating how his Republican heroes passed that 1964 bill. Dumb as a rock.


54 posted on 07/08/2019 12:51:59 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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Hannity's heart is in the right orientation, on most fundamental issues; but on freedom of association questions, he has been conditioned like a Pavlovian dog. That conditioning has totally deconstructed the reasoning ability of a wide swathe of otherwise rational conservatives.

It is truly sad, because those so conditioned believe they have embraced tolerance, whereas the pseudo intellectual fabric is very, very far from anything conducive to actual tolerance or "good will" among peoples. As I have tried to demonstrate in many efforts, it is the exact opposite. The premises, fairly put in context, are insulting to all of us, regardless of race, creed or color."

55 posted on 07/08/2019 1:08:29 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Pelham
Hannity never struck me as a good advocate for our side. He likes to hear himself talk too much for one thing.

And yes, nobody wants to claim any bad consequences as a result of that civil rights act, but it has in fact done great damage to freedom of association.

56 posted on 07/08/2019 1:42:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

It has also done tremendous damage to the social cohesion of American minorities, turning many into “victims” focused on demanding rather than achieving. Think about changes in recent decades—self defeating changes.


57 posted on 07/08/2019 1:47:34 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Hannity never struck me as a good advocate for our side.”

He’s not. Although he is at least on our side most of the time, when he’s not cheerleading the greatest hits of 1960s liberalism and calling it “conservatism”.


58 posted on 07/08/2019 3:17:33 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Ohioan; DiogenesLamp; wardaddy

Neither Hannity nor Rush accurately represent the 1960s Civil Rights movement. They are so eager to claim it that they rebrand it as being part of the conservative movement.

Those old enough to remember know better. Plus all that is needed for anyone too young is to go read contemporaneous political writing. Or watch speeches by Goldwater. Or Reagan. Or Buckley.

Hannity, Rush, Beck and Company need to give 1960s liberals the credit that they are due. Creating a massive and intrusive government bureaucracy that can run roughshod over every facet of American life that they deem discriminatory is their baby. They earned it, let them keep it.


59 posted on 07/08/2019 3:56:09 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham
And I am firmly convinced that all the Liberal caterwauling about race issues in the 1960s was more about power than it was real concern for human dignity.

I have become a cynic. Nowadays I don't think Democrats care about illegal aliens, I think they care about a constituency block. I think they cared about a constituency block in the 1960s, and they cared about a constituency block in the 1860s.

It's never about morals, or right and wrong. It's always about a political path to more power.

60 posted on 07/08/2019 8:02:35 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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