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Appeals court dismisses Emoluments Clause lawsuit in win for Trump
The Hill ^ | July 10, 2010 | Jacqueline Thomsen

Posted on 07/10/2019 7:51:32 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

This is when the President should announce that he is Ordering the IRS to conduct a Full Investigation into wether there are any Democrat Members of Congress Profiting from their Office ion violation of the Emoluments clause.


21 posted on 07/10/2019 8:22:08 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: jazusamo

http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/182486.P.pdf

The District Court really got slapped down. Not totally obvious, because the slap down lies in the procedure. District Court did everything it could to allow discover to proceed, even going so far as to REFUSE to certify the case for appeal. Well, it was appealed - there is a procedure for that - with Trump seeking a writ of mandamus (darned unusual) directing the lower court (the District Court) to dismiss the case. LOL.


22 posted on 07/10/2019 8:26:17 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: wastedyears
Based on the decisions in this appeal and in appeal No. 18-2488, we remand with instructions to dismiss the complaint with prejudice.

23 posted on 07/10/2019 8:27:28 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Thanks!

I love to see District Courts get hammered when they overstep and that’s been happening far to often.


24 posted on 07/10/2019 8:31:38 AM PDT by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: jazusamo

Hooray!!


25 posted on 07/10/2019 8:47:49 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: blackdog

Is Pelosi going to ignore this finding too?

Pelosi will fight this if she can say “emoluments” clause”, without stuttering and getting bug eyed.

If not, she will ignore it.


26 posted on 07/10/2019 8:48:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( To internet trolls and mediots telling us that Trump is dumb/evil. The Trump curse will get you!)
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To: jazusamo
-- I love to see District Courts get hammered when they overstep and that's been happening far to often. --

The system encourages overstepping. There is no penalty to the Disctict Court for overstepping, and few people have the finances or even gumption levt-over, after the District Court runs them through the mill. Lawsuits are financially and emotionally draining, and most issues have to wait for the conclusion of trial to even get to appeal. Courts abuse their discretion, and even this is allowed and rarely ground for reversal. Judge for life, and impeachment does not exist, for all practical purposes.

District Court judges are god in their own minds. There is no humility there. None. I bet this judge is PISSED, not chagrined.

Yet, as the President noted, the district court was "the first ever to permit a party to pursue relief under the Emoluments Clauses for alleged competitive injury -- or for any injury for that matter." The district court dismissed this novelty by reciting the general proposition that "numerous cases have found that a firm has constitutional standing to challenge a competitor's entry into the market," providing no citation that would make that proposition applicable to a direct claim under the Constitution, let alone a direct claim under the Emoluments Clauses. In doing so, the court failed to recognize, among other things, that no previous court had enforced the Emoluments Clauses; that no decision had defined what "emoluments" are; that no prior decision had determined that a party can sue directly under the Emoluments Clauses when the constitutional provisions provide no rights and specify no remedies; and that no case had held that a State has standing to sue the President for alleged injury to its proprietary or sovereign interests from a violation of the Emoluments Clauses. One can hardly question that these are "new legal question[s]" of "special consequence." ...

In reaching this conclusion, however, we are quick to note that disturbing an exercise of the broad discretion conferred on district courts to determine whether to certify orders for interlocutory appeal should be rare and occur only when a clear abuse of discretion is demonstrated.


27 posted on 07/10/2019 8:50:55 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: jazusamo
*TRUMP BUMP*

28 posted on 07/10/2019 8:59:18 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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The logic never held why people using Trump's hotel in DC at market prices would violate the emoluments clause just because they might be foreigner nationals.

Lack of standing doesn't mean the House couldn't take the issue up and make impeachment noises in the 2020 election cycle no matter how ridiculous their avenues of attack and how insubstantial the evidence. None of that stopped the "Trump-Russia Collusion" narrative from becoming "common knowledge" thanks to the endlessly repeated lies and supposition by the "Media" and fellow traveler pundits.

29 posted on 07/10/2019 9:03:22 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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To: jazusamo

Obama sealed “ALL” of his personal records with his first executive order on his first day in office!


30 posted on 07/10/2019 9:04:27 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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who has frequently sought to prevent others from reviewing his private financial records.

NO EFFING S**T!!!!!!!!!!!! Who doesnt?

31 posted on 07/10/2019 9:14:11 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: Rannug

Something about hand cream, I think... ;-P

from dictionary.com:

emolument: profit, salary, or fees from office or employment; compensation for services:
Tips are an emolument in addition to wages.


32 posted on 07/10/2019 9:17:23 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks for posting the opinion. Nice read, District Court got really slapped down.


33 posted on 07/10/2019 9:21:58 AM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: jazusamo

Next, they’ll try to get him on jaywalking back in 1974.


34 posted on 07/10/2019 9:56:47 AM PDT by bgill
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To: jazusamo

It’s a win - thank for pinging me...


35 posted on 07/10/2019 10:19:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat Party: a group that "makes Americans feel like strangers in their own country. NYT)
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To: wastedyears

Found this: Without prejudice is a legal term whose meaning, in essence, is “without injury” or “without loss” to the legal standing of a party to litigation. The courts use “without prejudice” during dismissal of legal proceedings, and parties to litigation often utilise it when negotiating the settlement.


36 posted on 07/10/2019 10:32:34 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: jimjohn
A case that should never have been heard in a court room. The Constitution is clear on this.

Constitution? What's that?

37 posted on 07/10/2019 10:35:06 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (AOC: The brain of a tea bisquit)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...dismissed a lawsuit filed by Maryland and D.C... finding that they did not have the standing to sue the president.

38 posted on 07/10/2019 11:05:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Whatever it is, Trump’s guilty of it./s


39 posted on 07/10/2019 11:28:32 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: jazusamo

Liberals will have a stronger case about President Trump’s profits from “renting out” the Lincoln Bedroom to wealthy contributors.

Oh, wait...


40 posted on 07/10/2019 5:40:30 PM PDT by pfony1 (Put Up or Shut Up!)
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