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To: DoodleDawg

Obamacare won’t be repealed, because it can’t be repealed - or, more exactly, it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.

Members of Congress don’t know much, but they can count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money.

Yes, the voters “hate Obamacare and want it repealed”. That is absolutely true.

It’s also true that they want the ability to buy insurance for pre-existing conditions, want insurance companies to be forbidden to cancel policies for non-payment, want zero payment at the point of service, want their adult children who are smoking dope in a dive in Oakland to stay covered, want their States to expand Medicaid without taxes going up, and so on.

In other words, the only two things they hate about Obamacare are paying for it, and the name.

Republicans in Congress understand this perfectly well, which is why there’s no plan.

And, not coincidentally, Obamacare (and Romneycare) were the culmination of fifty years of “reform”, all of which had the purpose of destroying the private sector or making it impossible for the private sector to function, except for boob jobs and a few other things. And, by 2009, the mission was largely accomplished.

Obamacare was merely a temporary mop-up operation, until full nationalization was possible.

And now, it is.

Like Nixon to China, Trump will propose single payer within the year. It’s really the only way out at this point.

And before you accuse me of favoring it, realize that it will destroy a lifetime of work for me. I don’t like it - I hate it.

But it’s coming, because it’s what the voters, bless their pointy little heads, want.


10 posted on 07/11/2019 5:52:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (1)
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To: Jim Noble
Obamacare won’t be repealed, because it can’t be repealed - or, more exactly, it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.

But it can be found unconstitutional, which is what is before the 5th Circuit currently.

Like Nixon to China, Trump will propose single payer within the year. It’s really the only way out at this point.

He promised last month he would announce his plan by mid-August. So we'll see.

13 posted on 07/11/2019 5:55:19 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jim Noble

Balderdash


15 posted on 07/11/2019 5:55:58 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: Jim Noble
It’s also true that they want the ability to buy insurance for pre-existing conditions, want insurance companies to be forbidden to cancel policies for non-payment, want zero payment at the point of service, want their adult children who are smoking dope in a dive in Oakland to stay covered, want their States to expand Medicaid without taxes going up, and so on.

sounds like we have an electorate problem ...

17 posted on 07/11/2019 5:57:14 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: Jim Noble
"Obamacare was merely a temporary mop-up operation, until full nationalization was possible.

And now, it is.

My belief is that "Medicare for All" is a near certainty in the next Congress, even if it is Republican controlled and Trump continues as president. The debate will be about how to make the trains run on time. Business will back it as they want out of the healthcare bureaucracy. That will put Trump in reluctant agreement.

35 posted on 07/11/2019 6:12:04 AM PDT by buckalfa (Earth First ! We Will Strip Mine The Other Planets Later !)
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To: Jim Noble
Great post, but I disagree with you on one thing. There was never really a serious goal in Congress to "destroy private health insurance."

Private health insurance -- as Americans have come to expect it (and demand it) -- is unsustainable on its face ... for all the reasons you cited in your post. Everyone wants to have access to unlimited financial resources to pay for any and all medical procedures they may need in their lifetime, but nobody really wants to pay the cost of it. So "health care" becomes nothing more than a shell game where people pay the cost of what they demand without realizing they ARE paying it.

Private health insurance is like Marxism. It's built on a business model that has no basis in economic or physical reality, so it eventually collapses under its own weight.

38 posted on 07/11/2019 6:15:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Jim Noble

Phew! What an attack on the American people when you’re really talking about the usual miscreants who want everything free - not the majority of Americans who work hard and have employer-based health care. But you’re right about one thing: no one wants to pay for their Obamacare because no one in their right mind wants to pay $2000-4000 dollars a month with huge deductibles. Americans are funny that way.


41 posted on 07/11/2019 6:19:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Jim Noble
Sadly, there is much truth to what you said.

Too many of the public is conditioned to something for nothing and picking their fellow American's pockets via the ballot box is the easiest way to get it.

We will be fortunate if we can save some element of competition by preserving private insurance in some form, allow health care sharing through faith based plans, expand medical savings account options and/or adopt a less expensive model of socialized medicine such as the Japanese have.

55 posted on 07/11/2019 6:57:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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