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1 posted on 07/12/2019 2:18:44 AM PDT by gattaca
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To: gattaca

Obamanation happened.


2 posted on 07/12/2019 2:25:14 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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Obama was the first U.S. President to remove a question on nationality in the decennial census.

He did more than that.....Trump's DOJ needs to look into Obama-era census finagling-----the first move the Kenyan
made when he crawled into DC from Chicago's Democrat gutters was to put the Census under his total control.

humanevents.com
2/12/09

Controlling the Census: The Obama Administration’s Power Grab
Martha Zoller | Thursday Feb 12, 2009 3:01 AM

"The American people deserve a non-partisan census in 2010, and we hope the committee will ensure that goal comes to fruition by holding an oversight hearing on the administration’s potential plans to reduce the future secretary of commerce’s authority over the agency," Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) in a letter to the House Energy and Commerce Committee

The preservation and expansion of the Democrat majority is the only reason the Obama Administration is exercising its power and taking over the Census. Last week, without much fanfare, The White House moved control of the Census from the Commerce Department to the Executive Branch. The Democrats want to use “sampling” to add to the counts in urban areas homeless people and minorities that they believe will be under counted. The Supreme Court shot down the idea of “sampling” in the last Census, but the Obama Administration is going to tee it up again and see if it flies.

In the last Census, congressional seats moved from states that were losing population in the North and Northeast, to states that were gaining population in the South, Southwest and Mountain regions of America. That is a loss of power from generally Democrat strongholds to more likely Republican areas. That population trend is expected to continue which means more seats out of Blue States into Red States.

That’s why before the ink was even dry on the announcement of Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) as Commerce Secretary, the Congressional Black Caucus and Latino groups were complaining that a Republican could not be in control of the census. Instead of supporting Gregg and letting the confirmation process vet this issue, the White House immediately caved and gave the power of oversight of the Census to the White House and indicated that Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel would be in charge.

Not only is this the wrong political move to make, it may also be unconstitutional. It is the duty of the Congress to take the Census every 10 years and through a law passed in Congress, it gives the power to execute the Census to the Commerce Department. If Congress has established — by law — that Commerce has the responsibility, the White House can’t override that law. If it does so, the action is illegal and unconstitutional to boot.

It would be helpful to know what Senator Gregg has to say about this but so far he hasn’t commented. Maybe he received a dead fish in the mail from Mr. Emanuel. Many suspect that he didn’t see this coming but it is seen by most as a slap in the face to the integrity of Senator Gregg and the Commerce Department. Controversy over this isn’t new and that’s why a letter was sent last year to the President signed by every Census Director since Nixon supporting a bill to make the Census Bureau an independent agency.

The directors believe they could be more effective if they could deal directly with Congress and there’s a Constitutional argument to back that up. New York Democrat, Carolyn Maloney is the bill’s chief sponsor — so this is a bipartisan issue. Many people, who won’t go on the record, are afraid of a Census process that is overseen by one of the most hyperpartisan people of our generation, Rahm Emanuel.

The Obama administration is quickly adopting the Chicago way of governing by fear. First the fear of economic collapse, which with the announcements and proclamations on a daily basis of doom and gloom seem to be riling the markets. Now they want to instill the fear that Republicans want to ignore minorities and the homeless in the Census count. To strip the Commerce Department of this responsibility just because a Republican is appointed to the position is a pretty sad state of affairs. But it’s only the beginning. This is not a “post-partisan” White House.

I’m a bit old school on the Census. I believe it should be a count and that’s it. The data derived from asking whether you have indoor plumbing or how many bedrooms you have is interesting, but not a part of the Census (and frankly none of the government’s business). The Census affects every aspect of how government asserts its power over us: the way our votes count — toward one congressman or another — results from the census. It provides the raw data by which government spending is allocated on everything from roads to schools. The Bureau of Labor Statistics also uses the Census to prepare the economic data that businesses rely on.

"The real issue is who directs the Census, the pros or the pols," says Bruce Chapman, who was director of the Census in the Reagan/Bush Era. "You would think an administration that’s thumping its chest about respecting science would show a little respect for scientists in the statistical field." It a tad ironic that the Obama administration is standing firm on the “fact” of global warming but wants a hyperpartisan such as White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel to oversee the Census. John Fund, in the Wall Street Journal, said, “The Obama administration is downplaying how closely the White House will oversee the Census Bureau. But Press Secretary Robert Gibbs insists there is "historical precedent" for the Census director to be "working closely with the White House." Fund is one of the foremost experts on election fraud and ultimately, manipulating the Census is a tool to be used to steal elections.

You should be concerned about this. Call Representative Maloney and ask if she still supports the independence of the Census process and support Representative Blackburn as she leads the fight in the Energy and Commerce Committee.

3 posted on 07/12/2019 2:25:36 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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Notice the Brown Shirt Media have YET to point out that it was 0bama that took the question off and in a highly partisan move that was LOUDLY criticized at the time. But that old magic “ten years” has gone by so they don’t need to remember. There’s a reason you drag Modified, Limited Hangout on for ten years and you are seeing it right here.


4 posted on 07/12/2019 2:31:26 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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What, exactly, was the mechanism that removed the citizenship question from this census? Executive order? Act of Congress? What?

I can understand an EO since it involves that branch. I really don’t understand what business it is of Congress


5 posted on 07/12/2019 2:38:48 AM PDT by RonnG (')
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Just like DACA, it’s all right when Obama does it, but not Trump.

So sayeth the courts.


8 posted on 07/12/2019 2:46:04 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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Trump needs to quit dithering.
Put the damn question back in and be done.
This nonsense of looking to other agencies or sources for the answer is a] not going to work and b] a nod to the left that they have a point.

Its being political...a politicians move. Be bold and do it.


10 posted on 07/12/2019 3:35:54 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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It’s tough to find but has the question actually been on previous census forms? I can’t remember..!

The local radio news keeps calling it “unprecedented” that such a question be asked yet it’s seemingly on every application I’ve ever filled out, even for a drivers license/registration.


11 posted on 07/12/2019 3:43:28 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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"Obama Deleting It Should’ve Been"

Big Media tells Merkuns what to think.

12 posted on 07/12/2019 3:54:47 AM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We chose Trump.)
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If you think it’s bad now, wait until the Souterization of John Roberts is compete. We’re going to need two more scotus appointments before we have a reliably conservative court.


13 posted on 07/12/2019 4:12:16 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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Trump says he’ll use other means to determine the number of citizens and non-citizens. Fine, but can those findings be made part of the final census, which is used in determining the number of delegates from the various states?


14 posted on 07/12/2019 4:20:01 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: gattaca

Republicans failed the Census.

Our Census form can be sent to foreign nations and filled out.

2020 Census is FRAUD !

A 2 year old could have put a citizenship question on the Census form.


15 posted on 07/12/2019 4:47:06 AM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter)
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And not a word of this from the media.God, I hate the commie media.


16 posted on 07/12/2019 5:03:43 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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The media repeatedly lies saying that it hasn’t been on the census for 100 years.


19 posted on 07/12/2019 5:45:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (TDenounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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Rush just made this same point, on Fox & Friends, this morning.

It WAS on the census form from 1870 - 2012.


20 posted on 07/12/2019 5:46:59 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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The president should have said, “To save money and make things simple we are going to reprint the 2000 census and use that.”


21 posted on 07/12/2019 6:24:57 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: gattaca

They should just go all biblical about this.

Something like this.

By executive order on (some pre determined day) we will be conducting our constitutionally mandated census. To assure accuracy will will require that all people return to their homeland for that month. All Americans wishing to be counted must return home. All Aliens must return home. Once our census is complete all legal residents can return to our glorious USA, should they so desire.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, it’s for the good of the children.
Thank you.


22 posted on 07/12/2019 6:46:12 AM PDT by The Public Eye
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NPR, quoting the Urban Institute, says the census threatens to put “more than 4 million people at risk of being undocumented.” The headline warns the addition of the question could lead to “worst undercount of black, Latinx people in 30 years.”

How does the census make people 'undocumented'? There's almost no one here without documents - every citizen and LPR has 'em, and most illegal aliens have some kind of fake or stolen documentation. Either way, then census doesn't take documentation from anyone. It's just attempting to verify how many citizens there are in the US.

How would a citizenship question make blacks underreport themselves? Because it's a 'Trump thing' so they refuse to do it? That's on them, not on Trump.

And how do you get Latinx from Latino? that's not a typo, the 'x' and 'o' are on opposite sides of the keyboard!
23 posted on 07/13/2019 7:45:26 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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