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Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution with Berlinski, Meyer, and Gelernter
Hoover Institution - Uncommon Knowledge ^ | 7/22/2019 | Stephen Meyer, David Berlinski, David Gelernter, Peter Robinson

Posted on 07/28/2019 10:50:40 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush

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To: Tennessean4Bush

IMO? A big WOT.


81 posted on 07/30/2019 7:47:25 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: alstewartfan

“random mutations “

You have been brainwashed. C8me back when you have the scientific facts.


82 posted on 07/30/2019 8:27:40 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Why don’t you briefly summarize what you think proves it.

There are lots of scientists who don’t accept it, including a chemist who was nominated for the Nobel prize in chemistry.

You haven’t said one scientific thing. Saying it’s “accepted” (whatever that means exactly) or “proven” (besides being false) is not “talking science”.

Evolution theory doesn’t even qualify as true science since there’s no stated condition which would falsify it. That would be a minimal requirement to qualify as proven (or science).

A negative cannot be proven. Stop making a fool of yourself and demanding such a thing.


83 posted on 07/30/2019 8:29:03 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: TexasGator
You missed the key word … unfalsifiable.

Like evolution.

84 posted on 07/30/2019 8:35:02 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: TexasGator

Not really. If it was, you could offer some evidence for that, instead of just making the same old tired, unsupported assertions.


85 posted on 07/30/2019 9:26:54 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Born to Conserve

You have added nothing to the conversation.


86 posted on 07/30/2019 9:34:57 AM PDT by spudville
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To: TexasGator

“It is a proven theory.”

Theories are never “proven”. To say such a thing just reveals your ignorance of science.

A theory can be confirmed to various degrees by observation and experiment, but with the major tenets of evolution, experiment and direct observation on the time scales necessary to achieve confirmation is impossible, so all that is left is indirect observation, looking at the historical remnants of the processes in question. The types of science that rely on that are always going to be only tenuously confirmed, at best, since our ability to determine historical conditions is always going to be incomplete and highly speculative.


87 posted on 07/30/2019 9:36:04 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: TexasGator

Then would it still be a theory?


88 posted on 07/30/2019 10:45:42 AM PDT by spudville
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To: null and void

Classification error.

This isn’t a “lottery” it’s mathematical futility.

Like a “lottery” with 1e50 tickets and the winner gets a Pepsi.

Yeah, one person will “win,” but the “jackpot” is so on-par with the cost of their ticket that it’s a wash, at best.

Characterizing this as a “lottery” is to put it entirely in the wrong class of thing; to transplant it from the realm of the impossibility of “winning” next to nothing into the realm of a measurable statistical possibility of REALLY winning a life-transforming payout.


89 posted on 07/30/2019 11:26:26 AM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: TexasGator

Bud, YOU have no facts, only spurious assertions. Amazing how Darwinists avoid direct questions. It is always its critics who “simply don’t understand”. *cough*
Right!


90 posted on 07/30/2019 11:34:12 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("The strangest women run wild down there Covered head to toe with Fur and hair." Al Stewart in Hanno)
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To: alstewartfan
BTW, which evolved first, bones, muscles, ligaments or tendons?

The elements. In the beginning there was ____________ and after time plus chance and a competitive advantage there evolved electrons. Wait. What came first? Time.

91 posted on 07/30/2019 11:34:17 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: aspasia

That answer may satisfy you, but it doesn’t work for me. As Abe Lincoln said, “You can’t fool all the people all of the time.”
In the beginning, BTW, GOD.....!


92 posted on 07/30/2019 11:38:19 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("The strangest women run wild down there Covered head to toe with Fur and hair." Al Stewart in Hanno)
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To: alstewartfan

I simply mean to point that the theory of evolution is typically not applied to the order of matter.


93 posted on 07/30/2019 11:42:06 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: aspasia

Read about the miracle of hearing. If you can’t observe design in this irreducibly complex organ, there is absolutely no hope for you, Sir.
You sound like the leftists who insisted that Maobama was the brightest star on the horizon.


94 posted on 07/30/2019 11:45:10 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("The strangest women run wild down there Covered head to toe with Fur and hair." Al Stewart in Hanno)
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To: alstewartfan

LOL, criticism of the theory of evolution makes me a leftist. It’s not about me, alstewartfan.


95 posted on 07/30/2019 11:55:36 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: Boogieman

“Theories are never “proven”. To say such a thing just reveals your ignorance of science.”

LOL. All theories are proved. I was being redundant for the sake of the ignorant.


96 posted on 07/30/2019 2:59:21 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: alstewartfan

Wrong.


97 posted on 07/30/2019 3:00:22 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: alstewartfan

“If you can’t observe design in this irreducibly complex organ,”

hmmm. Isn’t that a term from ID, the philosophy that says God is dead?


98 posted on 07/30/2019 3:02:41 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: lasereye

“Evolution theory doesn’t even qualify as true science since there’s no stated condition which would falsify it. “

Who brainwashed you with that lie?


99 posted on 07/30/2019 3:07:22 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
"All theories are proved."

No, mathematical theorems are proved. Scientific theories are not.

Common misconceptions about science I: “Scientific proof” - Dr. Satoshi Kanazawa (Evolutionary Psychologist)

100 posted on 07/30/2019 3:17:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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