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Trump's racism is an impeachable offense. The precedent of Andrew Johnson proves it.
NBC News ^ | July 30, 2019 | Peter Irons

Posted on 07/30/2019 10:38:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: dangus

“the Constitution reserves to Congress the right to over-ride such a veto and to remove the President”

Impeachment is subject to Amendment VIII with respect to due process.

The Supreme Court could have the final say.


41 posted on 07/30/2019 11:11:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m kind of amused by the call-someone-racist with no facts to support approach. I wonder if anyone beyond the echo chamber of liberals believes it.


42 posted on 07/30/2019 11:12:04 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s the best they have? President Trump, unlike every democrat to occupy our White House is not a racist. Pathetic. These losers are still throwing their perpetual temper tantrum.


43 posted on 07/30/2019 11:13:24 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: livius
".... I still don’t see how disagreeing with Democrats makes one a racist....."

My mother used to tell me that you can't rationalize with people who are irrational.

Does that answer your question? :-)

44 posted on 07/30/2019 11:14:33 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: NorthMountain
“to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach the Congress of the United States.”

The Congress of the United States has brought such upon itself.

You beat me to it. I was thinking, they've done a good enough job of that on their own.

45 posted on 07/30/2019 11:16:01 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And they have abandoned all pretense of objectivity. The media have joined the Democrats in advocating for impeachment.


46 posted on 07/30/2019 11:17:19 AM PDT by JWNM
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To: Brian Griffin

Amendment VIII has nothing to do with due process; surely you’re not saying that impeachment is cruel or unusual beyond the unusualness of the crime?

As for due process, impeachment IS the Constitutionally prescribed due process... although certainly if the President challenged the impeachment on any grounds, the Supreme Court would be obliged to consider those grounds. But I expect on consideration, it would defer to the Congress to make any legal decision beyond deferring to Congress.


47 posted on 07/30/2019 11:19:29 AM PDT by dangus
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To: lodi90

You are right. They also know some will vote strictly because of “Trump fatigue”


48 posted on 07/30/2019 11:19:46 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: livius
I still don’t see how disagreeing with Democrats makes one a racist.

And I don't see how my waking up in the morning makes me a racist.

I guess its complicated.

49 posted on 07/30/2019 11:19:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: JWNM

Having this thread in Smoky Backroom is a great way to get the truth out, too. /s


50 posted on 07/30/2019 11:19:50 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Article 10 provides this basis by making clear that speaking contemptuously about Congress and its members, with “intemperate” and “inflammatory” attacks based on racial animus — as both Johnson and Trump did on multiple occasions — brings the presidency into “contempt, ridicule and disgrace.”

What a giant load of BS.

No one can point to a single thing Trump has said that is actually racist.

The "Trump is a racist" meme is nothing but pure propaganda.

51 posted on 07/30/2019 11:20:59 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wasn’t half of Congress newly-former Confederate states at that point? I’d always figured Johnson’s impeachment was more about that than anything else.


52 posted on 07/30/2019 11:21:07 AM PDT by vmpolesov
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To: JWNM

The media and the Democrats are sameo, sameo.


53 posted on 07/30/2019 11:21:08 AM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are completely insane.


54 posted on 07/30/2019 11:22:48 AM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What the fok ever losers


55 posted on 07/30/2019 11:24:42 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I still don’t understand how AOC (Ruerto Rican) and Rashida Tlaib (Palestinean) are considered ‘Persons of Color?’”

Many Puerto Ricans are a mixture of Spanish and “black” ancestry.

“Persons of Color” commonly means having an ancestor who was not a Caucasian. However, many Asians don’t want to get lumped in with those two females.

I’m a mixture of pink and tan myself.


56 posted on 07/30/2019 11:27:34 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brilliant

You have a point.


57 posted on 07/30/2019 11:28:12 AM PDT by sport
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To: PGR88

This article is what is known as “deranged lunacy” in the rational world.


58 posted on 07/30/2019 11:28:57 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: Brilliant

Andrew Johnson escaped conviction in the Senate by one vote, that of Kansan Edmund G. Ross.

Ross’s career was destroyed by the same Radical Republicans who had brought the impeachment against Johnson.


59 posted on 07/30/2019 11:29:29 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: HotHunt

My mother used to tell me that you can’t rationalize with people who are irrational.


In dealing with ‘spiritual’ people, it will save much frustration if you remember this...

You can’t reason someone out of something they weren’t reasoned into.


60 posted on 07/30/2019 11:30:48 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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