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To: bwest

I, as a Christian, have the utmost respect for the faithful who adhere to the literal truth of the Bible.
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Obviously you do not. Christ reminded us to believe the words of Moses. Christians believe the words of Christ. I believe the words of Christ and of Moses, and you do not respect me because I dare to challenge your faith in the pseudo-science of evolutionism.

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I have none for those of little faith who choose to rationalize Biblical verse via creationism.
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Are you claiming that the great scientists who believed the Word of God, such as Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, and James Maxwell were rationalizing the Bible? That is the silliest thing I have ever read.

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You are among the latter.
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Your sanctimonious attitude is not a rational defense for your faith in the doctrine of the anti-Christian “theologian” named Charlie Darwin, and that of the slick, Moses-hating lawyer named Charlie Lyell, over the Word of God. The only rational defense for your faith is scientific evidence for common descent, which you cannot provide.

Mr. Kalamata


77 posted on 08/06/2019 1:36:50 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata; bwest
bwest: "I, as a Christian, have the utmost respect for the faithful who adhere to the literal truth of the Bible."

Kalamata: Obviously you do not.
Christ reminded us to believe the words of Moses.
Christians believe the words of Christ."

Neither Christ nor Moses ever said a single word about science as we understand it.

Kalamata: "I believe the words of Christ and of Moses, and you do not respect me because I dare to challenge your faith in the pseudo-science of evolutionism."

What you here call "pseudo-science" is, in fact, real science, natural-science by definition, and there is no other recognized definition for science.
Natural-science, by definitions, does not deal in words like "belief", "faith" or "truth", but rather in confirmed observations (="facts") and falsifiable explanations (="hypotheses" or "theories").
Basic evolution is a well-confirmed theory based on literal mountains of confirmed observations.

The Bible does not condemn science as we understand it, but does tell us to be fruitful, to multiply, to prosper, replenish and have dominion over life on Earth.
Those imply, to me at least, careful study & understanding of natural processes.

Kalamata to bwest: "Your sanctimonious attitude..."

"Sanctimonious attitude" is what I'm seeing from Kalamata.

Kalamata: "The only rational defense for your faith is scientific evidence for common descent, which you cannot provide."

In fact there are literal mountains of evidence -- including billions of fossils collected in hundreds of thousands of species -- each one showing transitional elements with species both before and, if any, after.

The fact that Kalamata refuses to see, much less recognize evidence for what it is, does not mean it isn't there.

117 posted on 08/10/2019 9:56:57 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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