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How the VA 'red-flags' patriots
wnd.com ^ | 8/6/2019 | michelle malkin

Posted on 08/07/2019 8:35:50 AM PDT by rktman

I first reported on the VA’s secretive database on “disgruntled” and “disruptive” vets five years ago. Under the VA policy on “patient record flags,” federal bureaucrats can classify vets as “threats” based on assessments of their “difficult,” “annoying” and “noncompliant” behavior. The VA manual says the flags “are used to alert Veterans Health Administration medical staff and employees of patients whose behavior and characteristics may pose a threat either to their safety, the safety of other patients, or compromise the delivery of quality health care.”

What a crock. It’s precisely because so many vets receive inferior care from the feds that they have been forced to raise their voices. Have we all forgotten the 40 veterans who perished at the Phoenix, Arizona VA, which relegated patients to a bureaucratic black hole through secret waiting lists? Among examples of patients’ behavior referred to the red-flaggers in the VA’s “Disruptive Behavior Committees” (Orwell couldn’t have cooked up a better name): venting “frustration about VA services and/or wait times, threatening lawsuits or to have people fired, and frequent unwarranted visits to the emergency department or telephone calls to facility staff.”

Disabled Air Force veteran and veterans advocate/attorney Benjamin Krause has exposed the Soviet-style targeting of veterans flagged for exercising their First Amendment rights or threatening to sue the VA over neglectful care or for simply being too “expensive.” He calls it “straight out of a totalitarian regime.” In 2013, the VA inspector general concluded that the bureaucracy “does not have a comprehensive definition of what constitutes disruptive behavior.” In January 2018, a VA Office of Inspector General report found that large numbers of flagged veterans were being left in the dark about being placed on dangerous patient lists – with no recourse to remove phony flags or appeal in any meaningful way.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: treadlightly; vetswithguns
And, those that work at the VA write down a LOT of things when interfacing with Vets so.................. Just watch your actions and what you say. Someone is taking notes.
1 posted on 08/07/2019 8:35:50 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Gun Control is the objective!!!!!!......


2 posted on 08/07/2019 8:37:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: rktman

...and this is just one of many reasons I avoid the VA like the plague.


3 posted on 08/07/2019 8:38:48 AM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: rktman

I’v talked to plenty of vets who don’t use the VA because they don’t want their guns taken.


4 posted on 08/07/2019 8:43:23 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness”)
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To: Red Badger
Gun Control is the objective!!!!!!...…

Always has been. My brother who live outside of Dayton is now quavering and claiming that gun owners need to compromise or risk losing everything.

I'm thinking he may need to ask his wife for b@llz back.

5 posted on 08/07/2019 8:52:25 AM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: rktman

A little secret about the VA. I had personal experience with at least 6 VAs as part of my training. I could relate numerous examples of incidents that led me to realize the following truth and if you care to hear them and have the time I will gladly relate a few. Suffice it to say that I concluded that the VA system was never intended to be used, certainly not the way folks think the gummint has promised. Lincoln promised to “provide for him who has born the battle” and that sounds to me like an obligation to heal the wounds of battle, not free medical care for life but somehow the latter is where we are now and have been for 50 years.

The problem is the VA was never funded as if everyone who was eligible would receive care there. In fact, IMHO, VA “care” was intentionally poor so only the desperate would seek care there. Trust me, I can back that statement up with MANY examples. There are a handful of VAs that are in districts where there are a lot of military retirees and COngressmen who are repeatedly re-elected by getting better funding for “their” VA (Gainesville, Florida, for one but there are others) but by and large any large city VA is a crap hole.


6 posted on 08/07/2019 8:54:23 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: voicereason

7 posted on 08/07/2019 8:57:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: TADSLOS

Well, a med I need(?) for my RA is about $12K per injection every 90 days so I gotta go for that. And, since my former employer decided anyone medicare eligible would be dropped from their health plan........................ Sometimes circumstances dictate what you gotta do.


8 posted on 08/07/2019 9:08:52 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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That’s so simple even a rino could get it. Dems? As if they give two craps about your non gender specific cake anyway. So, do you compromise and add rainbow frosting or do you get sued. You know EXACTLY what I mean.


9 posted on 08/07/2019 9:14:33 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman
I first reported on the VA’s secretive database on “disgruntled” and “disruptive” vets five years ago. Under the VA policy on “patient record flags,” federal bureaucrats can classify vets as “threats” based on assessments of their “difficult,” “annoying” and “noncompliant” behavior.

Today the VA medical system reports your behavior to the government, tomorrow "Medicare for All" reports the rest of us.

10 posted on 08/07/2019 9:16:44 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Most, if not ALL of these cases, are just money 💰 making schemes........ ..
11 posted on 08/07/2019 9:17:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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Well, bloom-in-idiot-berg is funding a lot of the anti crap so yeah, someone is making some money. Surely someone has the numbers that shannon t watts makes as the everyday housewife head of ‘nags’. Nutbags Against GunS


12 posted on 08/07/2019 9:23:04 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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I understand. My dad used the VA almost exclusively for medical care and prescriptions up until his death. In the end, they wouldn’t take him in as a hospice patient because of his income status.

My 90 year old WWII/Korean War veteran neighbor also uses the VA, not so much because he has to, but because he believes that he gets adequate care, even though it is marginal at best from my point of view.

So, everyone has a different reason to use or not use the VA. I get it, but for me, I would have to be bleeding out with no other options before I darkened their door. The whole organization is rife with leeches and corruption. It needs a power washing and the Red Flag compliance Nazis need to be cast out.


13 posted on 08/07/2019 9:23:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: rktman
I was basically referring to the cake people........😏
14 posted on 08/07/2019 9:24:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: TADSLOS

Yeah, I had to fight to get in as a meager level 8 care patient due to my massive income(?). Trying to recall if I had any caveats when I raised my hand and my dad swore me in. Nope, can’t find anyplace where I was allowed to restrict what I would and wouldn’t do. Regardless of how little I was getting paid. Oh, well, I guess I should be grateful I even got in.


15 posted on 08/07/2019 9:27:12 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Red Badger

Just finished off Mrs rktman’s awsome pineapple cake last night. :-)


16 posted on 08/07/2019 9:28:07 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: TADSLOS

55 Years after being honorably discharged from the Navy I have filed for VA medical benefits, but for a specific reason- hearing aids. My primary care doc told me veterans can get free hearing aids. As I can not afford to pay $7-8,000 to replace the ones I’ve had for a number of years but are failing, I’m trying it out.


17 posted on 08/07/2019 9:39:31 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Red Badger

Excellent guide. Thanks for posting.


18 posted on 08/07/2019 10:08:56 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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