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To: Hojczyk

Of course we can connect mental illness to mass murders. The trick is to know which handful of the mentally ill are going to commit mass murder and prevent it.

Millions of mentally ill will not commit mass murder, so as is true in these situations how do you build a system to find the needle in the haystack without infringing on everyone’s privacy rights.


5 posted on 08/07/2019 1:26:10 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Plenty of red flags...on many of the last mass murderers.

The system ignored them....

8 posted on 08/07/2019 1:38:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: 1Old Pro

That’s exactly the problem.


9 posted on 08/07/2019 1:39:10 PM PDT by babble-on ("moderation is best in all things" - Hesiod)
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To: 1Old Pro

You have nailed it, but I am willing to try some approaches to locating some of the potential killers. To me this is a question of perhaps not finding all of the potential shooters. But what if a method of screening finds and treats half? The mentally ill are going to be the beneficiaries (as you say at the loss of some of their privacy). As for the loss of society’s privacy, this has always been an issue. I for example used to try to keep from letting Google know everything about me, I finally gave up, and I also realize that they knew everything about me anyway, I just thought my phone was not ratting me out.

I will insist on all the due process that we can squeeze into this system, and I realize that there are meny mentally ill who can obscure this from experts anytime it suits them. We can only work this out if it is actually fair and actually works. IO am for trying it on a small scale.


10 posted on 08/07/2019 1:40:49 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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The young men who have the profile AND ALSO are on, or have in past been on, SSRI rx drugs. Killer combo, medically proven. FYI, my recent posts.


13 posted on 08/07/2019 1:47:14 PM PDT by Marchmain (peace...pax)
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To: 1Old Pro

The Parkland killer was definitely a good candidate for mass murder as the police had to visit his home 30 times.


15 posted on 08/07/2019 1:51:35 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: 1Old Pro

Aren’t most murders a result of mental illness, when you come down to it?
Sane people don’t murder people. Yeah, there’s “heat of the moment”, but even then it’s an anger management issue.

Then there’s evilness...


22 posted on 08/07/2019 3:25:23 PM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: 1Old Pro

Exactly - I believe that there are many out there who obviously should not have access to firearms...but I do not trust the government to make those decisions and not overstep and abuse such a system to try to disarm everyone down the road.
Some of them “needles in a haystack ain’t too hard to see...but most can no longer be legally held for more than 24-48 hours and then they are released back to let the illness fester...some cannot be effectively treated and leave a person capable of going about a daily social life - they can only be “subdued” by enough drugs to make them incapable of any vigorous action and that is no longer an option....so they fill them with psychotropic drugs, that they really don’t understand how they “work” and put them out there to pose as “normal” people.
Catch 22 situation since the Left emptied the asylums...


27 posted on 08/08/2019 3:05:30 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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