[BobL]

They have to get votes (we don’t), and something like 89% of the country wants the Red Flag Laws...so they’re coming, unless our side can make a credible case that some other option will work just as effectively.

Maybe it’s out there, but I haven’t seen that proposed yet, and I’d rather have Paul and Trump involved in writing those laws than an all-Democrat super-majority writing them in 2021...because they will get written, by one side or the other.

Sorry but I’m just being a realist here - public opinion is simply not on the side of effectively doing nothing (which is how opposition to these laws are presently viewed). Unless we change that...we’re going to lose on this issue, one way or another - particularly when the next shooting happens, and then the ones after that.

[BobL]

Having just said the above (#25), if we are able to show that what the Democrats demand is over-the-top and it’s all or nothing, we can still win on this issue.

But we won’t get there by flat-out refusing to discuss the laws.

(and yes, I expect to be flamed here, but I can take it)

[fruser1]

The only option that works effectively is constitutional carry.

You can’t stop the existence of bad people. You can only help ensure that the good ones can defend themselves.

How exactly were all these mass shooters stopped again?

The guy that walked into the Missouri Walmart with a rifle slung was met at the door by whom?

That’s the “solution” my friend.

[precisionshootist]

I don’t care if 99 percent of the country is for this the remaining 1 percent do not have to comply. We have a 2nd amendment to protect us FROM government. So how does the amendment provide ANY protection if the government has the right to seize weapons without cause and we have to go to court to get them back?

Rand Paul has lost his effing mind.

[Windflier]

something like 89% of the country wants the Red Flag Laws

I don't believe that for one second.