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To: cuban leaf

“One good one would be two or more witnesses testifying that you have made actionable threats, on or off line.”

Define ‘actionable’.

Either a crime has been committed or it hasn’t. Anything else is ‘pre-crime’.


49 posted on 08/13/2019 12:00:14 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: CodeToad

Either a crime has been committed or it hasn’t. Anything else is ‘pre-crime’.


IMO, that is the fatal flaw in my, and Rand’s, position.

However, what makes this unique is it is not a blanket law. It is applied only to specific people based on their actions and threatening words.

And the key is this: It is only temporary, unless a solid case can be made regarding mental health. It’s akin to be ing arrested by the police. They can lock you up and take away your rights for a certain amount of time before they have to either charge you with a crime or let you go.

i.e. the state is already allowed to take away your rights for a short time even if you are never charged with a crime. And as is the case now, if they just do it willie nillie, they will have problems. It’s why it doesn’t happen often.

It’s also a little like that stop and frisk thing NYC had going for it. Sure, they harassed “innocent” people, but we all know who was really getting “harassed”, and that, yes, it WAS effective against crime.

Same thing here.


61 posted on 08/13/2019 12:11:57 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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