Jail guards threatening former Epstein cellmate Nicholas Tartaglione: lawyer

NY Post ^ | 8-20-19 | Emily Saul

[robowombat]

What I the hell is going on under Barr’s jurisdiction?

What is going on is what happens in any large hierarchical organization. Those at the top are there to enjoy pay, perks and privileges. Those below them operate powerful informal networks focusing on turf control, corrupt or vicious private goals (frequently extended interpersonal feuds), and serving various private or clique agendas. This is where the real power lies in such organizations and the players know how to manipulate regulations and even laws to achieve selective punishments and to frustrate any measure from higher up that threatens in any way their fiefdoms.

The only way Barr (who is an old man) could exert some control and discipline on this organization would be for him to descend on them unannounced with a tiger team of people who are personally loyal to Barr. Even then it would be a battle royal unless he had DJT in his pocket and could fire, retire, suspend or transfer anyone as he pleased. This can be done in DOJ as many of their positions lack civil service protections. But at the end of the day the same rule by clique and inertia would return. The old saw I was taught in the military that there are two systems at work. The formal system of rules, regulations, organizational structure, and the informal influence structure that operates according to the unwritten law of self advancement, egotism, greed, laziness, personal viciousness and hypocrisy. The second is much more powerful as rewards and punishments can be meted out quickly. The only large organization that operated on actual mission basis and no excuses that I have ever encountered was SAC during Le May’s tenure and he had a large body of loyalists from the 20th Air Force days,that he moved into positions of responsibility as quickly
as possible.

[ptsal]

What could go wrong?

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/190725-epstein-killer-cop.jpg?

[DeweyCA]

Since you think that the highest people can’t designate responsibility, are you ready to say that Obama deserves to be put in jail if Comey or McCabe are found guilty of wrongdoing?

[kaehurowing]

He’s obviously an animal lover.

[rintintin]

“Since you think that the highest people can’t designate responsibility, are you ready to say that Obama deserves to be put in jail if Comey or McCabe are found guilty of wrongdoing?”

1. I’m for holding Obama accountable. If that means jail, sure.

2. As for Barr, if I were Trump I would fire him for not keeping close tabs on Epstein’s incarceration, espacially after the one failed suicide attempt. (As I say, if I’d been Barr i would have demanded a 24 surveilance camera in Epstein’s cell, and a direct feed to my office and secure cell phone. Instead, Barr sloughed the whole thing off to underlings and clearly didn’t keep close tabs. Was he just stupid and/or lazy — or corrupt?

[rintintin]

“The only way Barr (who is an old man) could exert some control and discipline on this organization would be for him to descend on them unannounced with a tiger team of people who are personally loyal to Barr.”

He could have - should have - ordered a 24 hour surveillance camera in the cell. And have live feed to his office, and to an assistant during Barr’s sleeping hours. Epstein was an INCREDIBLY important prisoner. And the fears that he’d be silenced were open, commonplace, and well-founded. Special monitoring measures were called for, but Barr treated the case as if Epstein was some run-of-the-mill check kiter, of no special interest to the AG.

[ronnie raygun]

He is in on it, IM sure he got paid or sentence reduced, early release, and will be swimming with the fishes soon

[robowombat]

Yes, we would see it that way. But Barr is a career product of the bureaucratic culture. As AJ, he had far more important things to do. Important memos to read on capital improvements, personnel training, IT upgrades. Besides he had important speeches to have written and then rehearsed to the Bar Association of Kansas City, Mo @ Kansas. This is what important people do in the bureaucratic culture. both government and military, and probably in the private sector. Furthermore , what you describe is considered a horrible breach of bureaucratic protocol as it breaks the chain of command and control and inserts direct control by the SJ of an organization about five or six levels below Barr. That truly causes the feces to hit the fan as everyone he jumped over doing that ,is at the least offended by having their niche pushed out of the way. What you describe makes sense, but the bureaucracy civilian and military are dysfunctional entities so it strongly counter indicated in that culture where perception trumps reality and process is more important than product.

[Trump_vs_Evil_Witch]

Watch Bill Barr take three months to ask his staff what to do to....maybe the IG has some ideas.....maybe a report......

Forget about the Federal Witness Protection Plan that Epstein should have been on from DAY ONE.....

[lightman]

Why am I hearing the Godfather theme music in the background?

Hate that music...exboss had that as his cellphone ringtone.

And he acted Mafiaso to boot.

[Bon mots]

Who's really behind it all...???...???

[binreadin]

Or maybe he is . . . .

Let’s see how this plays out over time.

[bitt]

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[bgill]

How did he kill him if he was bailed out the day before? Or was that more fake news?

[subterfuge]

Not fake news, just lies.