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Many in Media continue to Misidentify Pistol Used in Dayton Mass Murder
Ammoland ^ | 20 August, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/22/2019 3:48:12 AM PDT by marktwain

Many in Media continue to Misidentify Pistol Used in Dayton Mass Murder

When the mass murder in Dayton Ohio was conducted by a leftist drug addict, most in the media jumped to the conclusion that he used a rifle. It was not hard to do for those ignorant of firearms and the arcane classifications created by the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934 and its follow on legislation. The logical contradictions of the NFA have become more and more obvious, partly through legal holdings of the BATFE, and partly from Court decision. It takes a serious understanding of the law to know what is a pistol and what is a rifle. Some study is required to know when a $200 federal tax stamp, and processing through the Byzantine BATFE bureaucracy is mandated,  and when it is not.

There are understandable reasons why some media outlets were confused.  Here are a few that have not corrected their misunderstanding of the technology, more than a week after the killing:

From newyorkpost.com August 12:

Betts, armed with an assault rifle, opened fire in the Oregon District, a trendy nightspot neighborhood, early Aug. 4. He killed nine people in 30 seconds before police officers shot him dead.

From nbcnews.com August 12:

Ten weeks ago, documents said, Betts and Kollie assembled the rifle in the latter's apartment. Six to eight weeks ago, Betts returned to retrieve the rifle and to pick up the body armor and the 100-round magazine, prosecutors said.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2020election; am15; assaultrifle; assaultweapon; banglist; berniesanders; dayton; deanweingarten; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; mediawingofthednc; misidentification; ohio; partisanmediashills; pistol; presstitutes; rifle; smearmachine; vermont
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The silly nomenclature games that have evolved from the various changes to the National Firearms Act of 1934 and its successors are shown by the definition of what is a pistol, what is a rifle, what is a short barreled rifle, what is a firearm, etc.
1 posted on 08/22/2019 3:48:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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Good morning, Dean. I have a question.
Do you find it odd that some of the recent firearm related murders involved different types of weapons -particularly NFA kinds?
The bum who used the suppressor in Virginia Beach, the AR pistol in this case.

I just found it to be an odd coincidence. Almost like someone’s trying to make problems where none existed.


2 posted on 08/22/2019 3:58:47 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: marktwain

I wanted to mail my son two CO2 powered BB pistols. According to their website the Post Office classifies a BB pistol as a firearm.


3 posted on 08/22/2019 3:59:25 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: RandallFlagg

At first, I found it a bit odd.

But both items are becoming more popular.

So, it is not unexpected that they would be used in crimes more often.


4 posted on 08/22/2019 4:01:29 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I have a Rossi Ranch Hand in 45 Colt that is classified as a handgun. It’s a loose copy of the old Steve McQueen gun in Wanted Dead or Alive, Lever action 24 inch length. I’d love to Open Carry it but I’d spend most of my time on my face, in jail, or in court.


6 posted on 08/22/2019 4:20:06 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: RandallFlagg

Interesting thought. Darn convenient fir the gungrabbers.


7 posted on 08/22/2019 4:35:19 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: BerettaTomcat
Although Dean attended my alma mater, I lost faith in him when he was crapping all over George Zimmerman early on, but still when enough information had been made public to realize George was being railroaded by the media ... and Dean was in on it.

That is an interesting charge. Do you have anything to back it up?

My memory is quite different. I suspect you are mixing up Dean Weingarten with Gene Weingarten, or perhaps Randy Weingarten. Both of the later are committed Leftists.

Gene Weingarten writes for the Washington Post. Randy Weingarten is President of the American Federation of Teachers.

Dean Weingarten graduated from the University of Wisconsin. Is that your alma mater?

8 posted on 08/22/2019 4:37:37 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BerettaTomcat

For the purposes of clarity, I am Dean Weingarten. My screen name on freerepublic is marktwain.


9 posted on 08/22/2019 4:39:40 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BerettaTomcat
Here is a link to an article I wrote about George Zimmerman in 2013. Here is an excerpt from the article:

"I have been observing and writing about the George Zimmerman's digital lynching from very early on.

As I monitor and write about self defense stories, I caught an early version of the events in  Sanford, Florida.  The story said that a black teenager had been shot in self defense.  A picture was included.   Reading the story, I concluded that the picture was that of the black teenager that had been shot.  I was wrong.   The picture was of George Zimmerman.

It was an easy mistake to make.   As with a large and increasing number of Americans, George has a mixed race background.  One of his great grandfathers was black, and he has a somewhat dark complexion.   The early story said that George had a concealed carry permit.    That placed the statistics on his side.  People who go to the trouble of obtaining concealed carry weapon (CCW) permits, are extremely law abiding.   They are many times more law abiding than the average population, and commit murder much less often than police officers.

I was surprised at the institutional  corruption that the old media displayed to demonize George, falsely accuse him of racism, and even to digitally modify images and audio files to convict him in the public mind.

I was not surprised that a jury came up with a not guilty verdict.   The facts of the case were never in doubt. "


10 posted on 08/22/2019 4:59:50 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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My son is building a 300 Blackout with a suppressor. It is all above my pay-grade, but I think that it is considered a “pistol” - but it sure looks like a short-barreled rifle to me!

With a pistol I do just a tad better than him. With a rifle we’re about even. I can still kick his butt at the shotgun range!


11 posted on 08/22/2019 5:10:20 AM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: marktwain

Bookmark


12 posted on 08/22/2019 5:12:41 AM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: 21twelve
I love the .300 blackout cartridge.

It has enough power for hunting or self defense. It works well with suppressors and pistol length barrels.

Close to the .30-30 in full power loads.

Close to the 10mm in subsonic loads.

13 posted on 08/22/2019 5:15:56 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BerettaTomcat; marktwain

“...crapping all over ...”

The only “crapping all over” I see is coming from some Noob towards a long-time, well-respected Freeper.

BerettaTomcat
07-2019


14 posted on 08/22/2019 5:34:48 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: marktwain

Gotta say, that’s a rifle, regardless of what the nomenclature says. “Forearm braces” are fig leaves for ultra-short CQB rifles. So yeah, the shooter used a “rifle”. But as always, the type of weapon used has nothing to do with the tragedy. It’s about the person.


15 posted on 08/22/2019 5:36:44 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: BerettaTomcat

Welcome to Free Republic!


16 posted on 08/22/2019 5:38:31 AM PDT by moovova
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To: NFHale

Hah! You beat me to the obligatory “Welcome”!


17 posted on 08/22/2019 5:39:16 AM PDT by moovova
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To: marktwain

There’s a lot of common sense in your article...which the Left will immediately ignore. Keep up the fight!


18 posted on 08/22/2019 5:40:23 AM PDT by moovova
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To: marktwain

What do you think about the new Winchester “350 Legend” round?

I was thinking about buying one for deer hunting in southern MI.


19 posted on 08/22/2019 5:42:07 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: moovova

I just thought it was damned rude.


20 posted on 08/22/2019 5:51:02 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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