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'Trump only understands if somebody wins and somebody loses'
Arutz Sheva ^ | 2/9/19

Posted on 09/02/2019 4:28:18 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: adorno

That is it in a nutshell.

The theft of intellectual property is key, as is ownership of factories doing business in China.

If I understand it correctly, it was only recently that certain foreign based businesses were allowed to have more than 49% ownership in their ventures, and I still don’t know if that raising of the ceiling was uniform or only covered certain types of investment such as foreign ownership of joint venture fund management companies.

I don’t know if a tractor company wants to set up a factory in China to build tractors, if they still require a 51% Chinese holding to build and open the factory.

And that “concession” was likely due to Trump. Perhaps some other Freeper has a better understanding of this aspect and could explain it for us.


61 posted on 09/02/2019 7:16:46 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: rlmorel

The more I hear of these intellectuals of our time the more I realize that they are not so intelligent after all. Lord help us all!!!


62 posted on 09/02/2019 7:19:38 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: freeandfreezing

I agree, which is why I covered such typically unmentioned in Econ 501 elements in my narrative.


63 posted on 09/02/2019 7:21:55 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Eleutheria5
Trump only understands if somebody wins and somebody loses

The concept of favorable/unfavorable balance of trade involves winners and losers. If one country has an unfavorable balance of trade, it is importing more goods than exporting and is reducing the overall money supply to some other country. The other country is increasing its money supply. Decreasing the money supply has a negative effect on its economy, and increasing the money supply is a stimulus to the economy.

64 posted on 09/02/2019 7:25:24 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: elpadre

Thomas Sowell has written two great books on this subject: “Intellectuals and Society” and “Intellectuals and Race”...I highly recommend both.


65 posted on 09/02/2019 7:27:56 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: Eleutheria5

This attitude, he said, is “a large part of our problem.” He added: “The Fed is a professional place with excellent economists.”


Who are we going to trust? Trump or the professional place?


66 posted on 09/02/2019 7:28:25 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Eleutheria5

If you were making $200,000 per year you and your family would be able to afford lots of nice things. If, all of a sudden, you were cut down to $100,000 per year a lot of those toys you had would have to be gotten rid of.

China has been able to buy with our money divisions of troops, aircraft carriers, nuclear missiles, submarines, bullets and on and on.

Trump knows that if he cuts the 545 billion deficit down to zero that a lot of China’s military toys will have to be gotten rid of. The perfect model for this is what Reagan did to the Soviet Union.

Mr. Fischer is too full of Liberalism to grasp this fact.


67 posted on 09/02/2019 7:57:39 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: rlmorel
The "excellent economists," the chatterati, and most of the American intelligentsia cannot comprehend two things about Donald Trump: He is of towering intelligence and puissance, and he is fundamentally benevolent.

If they could bring themselves to understand this, they would understand him.

What they cannot and do not want to believe is that their intelligence is mediocre in comparison to that of President Trump, and, though the intentions of some of them--possibly most of them--are benevolent, the mediocrity of their intelligence prevents them from understanding their limitations and the truth about Trump.

68 posted on 09/02/2019 7:58:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Was the election of Donald Trump to the Presidency liberty's last gasp? Big Brother is watching you.)
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To: kiryandil
The economic writer Andrew Tobias said in one of his books that he went to some economic forum, and they asked the attendees to predict the numbers for the next year, the one closest will win an Atmos clock.

He got the clock by simply taking that year's numbers, and increasing it by current/expected growth rate.

69 posted on 09/02/2019 8:14:11 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Eleutheria5

Fischer doesn’t understand Negotiations 101. He should go back to school.


70 posted on 09/02/2019 8:29:25 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: Cen-Tejas

He sees it as only right and just that China should get a bigger military, to atone for the allies short-changing them during WW II. Being liberal, he probably sees it as only right and just that Iran should get the bomb, because the US sent in volunteers to support the Shah in the 1950s, when the new Prime Minister illegally nationalized the oil fields. To remedy past discrimination, let the poor Asians and Africans kill you, so they won’t hate you as much.


71 posted on 09/02/2019 8:32:47 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

Kenny Rogers might help him learn when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em.


72 posted on 09/02/2019 8:34:08 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BofL4hJrgRU


73 posted on 09/02/2019 8:36:53 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I think one thing Liberals never seem “to get” is that 3,084 counties out of 3,141 * effectively hate their guts. Instead, every day on talk shows and on the web, they act like they won 3,141 and we won 57.

* Liberal Snopes argues the number of counties Trump won...naturally.


74 posted on 09/02/2019 8:44:00 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Eleutheria5
I shake my head.

Like many amateur economists on FR (and professional free rangers) they really do not understand the limits of their 'knowledge.'

In the middle of a discussion with another 'expert' here...they do not understand that economics is not just about book learning, it's about people...a subject which, to a person, they display spectacular ignorance.

75 posted on 09/02/2019 9:07:05 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.z)
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To: traderrob6
In business, politics as in life, there is really no such thing as a “win win” scenario.

Not in my experience. free and voluntary trade, by definition, should be win-win.

76 posted on 09/02/2019 9:20:47 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.z)
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To: Eleutheria5

Somebody wins and somebody loses? True but I think Vince Lombardi, the famous Green Bay Coach said something to the effect: “There is no substitute for Victory.”


77 posted on 09/02/2019 9:21:00 AM PDT by mosaicwolf
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To: adorno
IP theft is certainly an issue, but equally large was the strategy of elite globalist American businessmen to either sell entire factories or move their production and product development to China. More US based knowledge and competitive advantage was sold to Chinese businessmen than was stolen by other Chinese businessmen.

The American businessmen who voluntarily sold out for short term gain didn't do our nation any favors.

78 posted on 09/02/2019 9:31:26 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: mosaicwolf

But good-time Charlie’s got the blues.


79 posted on 09/02/2019 9:55:56 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

It’s not a game if you don’t keep score...


80 posted on 09/02/2019 10:55:07 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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