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Let me get this straight: The "professional" Fed with its "excellent economists" raised interest rates so they could prove Trump isn't the boss of them and because he's a poopy head for fighting China.
1 posted on 09/02/2019 4:28:18 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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No idea who this Fischer guy is, but he sounds like an alumnus of the Paul Krugman school of economics. In other words, he doesn’t understand a thing about it.

Trump understands quite well. Furthermore, his efforts to force China to play fair are long overdue.


2 posted on 09/02/2019 4:32:56 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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"The Fed is a professional place with excellent economists."

LOL

3 posted on 09/02/2019 4:34:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Unlike Hillary, who doesn’t understand she’s a loser even when she loses.


4 posted on 09/02/2019 4:35:22 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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“The problem with Trump’s approach to trade is that he doesn’t understand trade. Trump only understands if somebody wins and somebody loses. Both sides profit if they have a head on them and they know how to conduct negotiations.”

So, the US, under President Trump, Ross, Mnuchin, Lighthizer, have been able to negotiate “fair” trade deals with everyone else, except China. And because of that, the President or his team don’t know what they’re doing? Is that what the gist of this article is.

The man has said, time and time and time again, if the deal is FAIR to the American people and to American businesses, he’s all in. Problem is, all the globalist’s are so vested in China and screwing the US taxpayer that they’re blind and deaf to everything the man has shown and said.

The Chinese were supposed to start buying our soybean and pigs. They reneged and went to Russia. Russia can barely feed itself and is also experiencing some issues in their agricultural and farming operations. They got mouths to feed, too, I’m told.

These Wall St, Fed Reserve, Globalist, CFR types need to run out on a rail.


7 posted on 09/02/2019 4:36:31 AM PDT by qaz123
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When one side makes their own rules and enjoys 100s of billions of dollars in trade surplus - at the expense of the other side, there is no ‘win win’ possible.
9 posted on 09/02/2019 4:39:01 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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You don’t get much deeper into the Israeli-US-Global Swamp than this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Fischer

For context however, he is on the Barak/Barack side of things, so opposed to the Bibi/Kushner/Trump faction.


11 posted on 09/02/2019 4:40:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker (.)
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Fischer believes that the global economy is balanced on the back of the American consumer. President Trump believes that the global economy works best for everyone if it is balanced - on the backs of every consumer in every country involved in trade.

Fischer is an ass.

The global economy has been supported by the toils of America precisely because of people who believe that what is best for all nations is what is best for America. Fischer can kiss my ample rear end.


12 posted on 09/02/2019 4:41:56 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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They try our every shibboleth out on him regardless of the factual background not supporting it. Hoping their one brilliant observation is the one that sticks.

Note to Trump haters: Stick to his actual character defects. He has them. We all do. But, otherwise you look stupid. And, no one cares anyway.


13 posted on 09/02/2019 4:42:34 AM PDT by anton
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Somebody wins and somebody loses every day, it’s called life. No participation trophies in life or business or trade etc.


14 posted on 09/02/2019 4:43:38 AM PDT by maddog55
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The Fed is a professional place with excellent economists.


If economist were so smart why are they all working for some government agency and not out making money of their own?

Answer is simple. They have no more idea how the world economy works then anyone else. They live in a bubble of their own creation and make guesses. Sometimes they guess right and sometimes they guess wrong. The sad part is they themselves never have to pay a price when they guess wrong and an entire nation’s economy crashes.

What this professional economist misses in his examination of Trump vs China is that this is war. An economic war for sure, but war never the less.

China has it’s own rules and ignores everyone else. They have been allowed to saturate our nation with cheap crap while at the same time keeping their market closed.

The result they have gained billions of dollars while America’s manufacturing dwindled. They can do this because they do not have the same labor or environmental laws we had and if someone in China does not like it, they could be shot.

If it was just American’s buying cheap crap from China then it might be tolerated. But it is more than that.

What is China doing with all the billions of American dollars? One, they are buying our politicians as well as our media people. We have Americans selling us out for 20 pieces of silver, they (the Americans) should be ashamed of themselves.

But as they say on TV, wait there is more. China is busy around the world becoming a Colonial power. They start out by loaning poor countries (with the proper bribes) money for infrastructure. Infrastructure that China would like to own such as airports and shipping ports.

When the nation defaults on the loans, the Chinese step in and take over.

So Mr. Professional, this is not about trade. It is about restoring balance between two nations and it is about slowing down the spread of China around the world.

As always, this is just an opinion. No more value then your opinion, perhaps even less because you may be right and I may be wrong. But at least if I am wrong, our nation’s economy will not go into the toilet.


15 posted on 09/02/2019 4:47:00 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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“Though the global economy has recovered since World War II, Fischer believes that “almost every day” the US takes steps to “weaken the global economy.” “

“recovered since World War II...”

What on earth. Strange connection to make. Why not go back to the Great Depression.

“weaken global economy...”

So he believes that a strong American economy weakens the global economy. Absurd. But, an admission that, for him, a strong American economy is not good.


16 posted on 09/02/2019 4:51:52 AM PDT by odawg
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As long as the Deep State loses, I’m ok with that.


17 posted on 09/02/2019 4:54:07 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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“..That’s not what happens in international trade..”

it does now buster.


18 posted on 09/02/2019 4:54:57 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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There is a FR article, below, which has more relevance than the verbiage spewed by Fisher: ‘Trump has the right strategy on Beijing. As a Chinese dissident, I’d know.’
The Washington Post ^ | August 30, 2019 | Chen Guangcheng


22 posted on 09/02/2019 5:15:19 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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“Somebody wins, somebody loses” just sounds a lot like life.
Unless you are into participation trophies.


24 posted on 09/02/2019 5:36:46 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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I think you nailed it.


25 posted on 09/02/2019 5:43:00 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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Sounds like a guy with just a third-grade level education on how economics and trade work. And the fed raising rates just to spite Trump? Lower than third grade analysis.

Hopefully Fischer is not in charge of any decision-making, for a company or some government agency.


26 posted on 09/02/2019 5:44:52 AM PDT by adorno
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Both sides profit if they have a head on them and they know how to conduct negotiations."

And this deep state apparatchik, [former Vice Chairman of the US Federal Reserve] Prof. Stanley Fischer, says this in Israel? Where the Hamas practices the negotiating tactics just like the Chinese, ie. give us what we demand and we will willingly negotiate your optional survival?

More and more I see President Trump as the modern analogue of President Andrew Jackson, an outsider delivering a sizzling reproof from a populace that has watched the monied and comfortable establishment build a separate existence ove the past decades. How dare the unwashed masses revolt against their betters?

FYI: Professor Fischer is a graduate of the London School of Economics [B.Sc. and M.Sc. in economics from 1962–1966] and M.I.T. for his Ph.D [1969] - and the twig shows how it is bent!

27 posted on 09/02/2019 5:46:00 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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In business, politics as in life, there is really no such thing as a “win win” scenario.

There are only win/lose situations and it's just a matter of degree of the win or loss. Some deals are pretty fair and the entity that actually wins does so almost imperceptively but he wins nonetheless. It's a zero sum game and has been since the beginning of time.

The “everybody can be a winner” is a construct of the left and the idiots that inhabit that deluded orbit have rarely worked a day in their life in the real world of business.

28 posted on 09/02/2019 5:47:26 AM PDT by traderrob6
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Yes. Like Reagan: "We win. They lose."

That's what you call a WINNER! Reagan was a WINNER. Trump's a WINNER. His children are WINNERS. He wants all Americans to be WINNERS. In fact, he wants all the people of the world to be WINNERS.

Think about this: In 2020, the American electorate will choose between

1. A financial genius, who built a multi-million dollar international financial empire over 50 years, loves America, believes in the American Dream, and intends to Make America Great

or

2. A candidate who Hates America and considers the USA to be an evil, racist, nazi nation that must be destroyed and intends to do just that.

And half the US electorate favors option #2. Now that's scary.
29 posted on 09/02/2019 5:55:24 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Was the election of Donald Trump to the Presidency liberty's last gasp? Big Brother is watching you.)
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