You are in far more danger from you own government than you are from armed crazies.
Governments murdered 262,000,000 of their own citizens in the 20th century alone.
Armed crazies aren’t even a pimple compared to that.
If we are going to have red-flag laws, the first people to be red-flagged should be all government officials and employees and their bodyguards.
If we can save just one life it will be worth it.
If "basic due process standards are considered" there can never be any such thing as a "red flag" law.
The entire concept is to create a 100% bypass of due process.
This needs to absolutely be put out of business.
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Yep and 10K worth of legal bills later
Yes?
No?
Keep in mind, since the gorilla has a reasonable chance of getting shot if he tries to beat the soon to-be-ex-wife and her daughters to a bloody pulp, and he is a gorilla, it's what they do, and she is a mother grizzly and protecting her cubs is what she does.
Besides there are damned few liberal judges who won't think that a gun in a house where children live is anything but prima facia evidence of Red Flag danger.
How about lets just return to punishing the guilty instead of everyone else.
take away guns and they will make bombs, take away bombs and they will use fire, take away fire and they will use motor vehicles, or rocks or knives or hammers etc etc etc
Debate?! What is there to debate? There is absolutely no due process with red flag laws.
while they talk about ‘due process’.. many Americans including some good honest citizens (and good “just following orders” police officers) will be hurt or shot dead if the political hacks try to impose such patently illegal and dangerous “laws” or confiscations on American citizens
just pointing out the obvious, alas the commie political hacks probably won’t quit, tho
they don’t give a damn about American citizens or police, they only care about their own power and profits
Red flag laws and socialist libtards and cucks that want them, prove we need the 2nd Amendment now more than ever.
The real question is when does the illusion of safety trump constitutional and God given natural rights?
Red flag laws won’t make anyone safer but it might make them less safe when people start getting very angry about losing their rights.
What idiot alive believes firearms are the only way to hurt mass numbers of people? Have they never heard of fire, gasoline, bombs, poison or other biological agents, just to name a few?
Open carry does bother some people. Now, why is important?
IF someone in CVS sees a person carrying and let's say the person carrying had a bad day and aren't very polite.
What's to prevent someone within the store, say an employee, to call the police, or obtain the person's name and report it as a potential "red flag".
Next thing you know police are at the gun owner's home with a warrant to confiscate the gun(s) until such time as a court can determine IF they are truly a "red flag".
In San Fran they voted to call the NRA a terrorist organization.
Change one or two members on the Supreme Court, lose the White House and/or Senate and you will see other groups labeled as such.
Free Republic and all who've created accounts here could be on a red flag list.
It could all change overnight.
That's why it is important to show up at the ballot box next November.
You dont say, shiney new toy for law enforcement... and they say cops would never abuse them...
Red Flag laws are the reason we need the 2nd Amendment.
Wow. America is made up of 77% of idiots, democrats and Elmer Fudd morons stabbing you in the back to communists.
“Rather than find clear and convincing evidence, [courts are] basically saying, ‘Better safe than sorry,’”
But, but, when I say “due process” it makes it sounds like I actually support the second amendment.
“does not implicate the second amendment, as it does not restrict the right of law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of their homes.”
If the citizen who is red flagged is not law-abiding, arrest that citizen, don’t just take the firearms. If the citizen who is red flagged is law-abiding there is no reason to take the firearms unless “responsible” comes into play, but what does “responsible” mean here?
So the Elmer Fudds support red flag laws while the left is virtually swatting and doxing people for their political views... can we be that stupid!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3776823/posts?page=1
To the Elmer Fudds and legislator Rinos considering this cop shiney new toy witchHunt legislation:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3776818/posts
However repressive the ruling regime is, however widespread lawlessness becomes, you never think that you, of all people, will be arrested. People tend to believe that the reckless automobile will plow into someone else, that the brick will fall on someone else’s head and that the undercover operative will come knocking on someone else’s door.
Government man: I’m here to buy back the guns we never owned with the taxes we took out of your paycheck:
Me: Due to your history of mass murders and violence, you failed my background check and you cannot be trusted with absolute power over the people.